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re: "They Hate Our Farmers & Want Them Driven Out of Business
Posted on 8/5/24 at 6:39 am to R11
Posted on 8/5/24 at 6:39 am to R11
Ok. Educate me. Tell me why I need to give you more money in the form of subsidies.....because that is what you are asking for, correct? You're against socialist give aways until it's your give away. We already keep a floor on prices. If you are falling underneath, Daddy in Washington is not gonna save you.
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Posted on 8/5/24 at 6:46 am to lsuguy84
Oh, I very much live in the US....and you want more money from the government. Just say it. Ask Donnie that after he gets in if he can go and burn some crops in South America....maybe Australia. You know support you floor without my tax dollars paying for your corn to go into my gasoline
Posted on 8/5/24 at 6:50 am to LuckyTiger
quote:
The Soviet Union introduced forced collectivization (Russian: ???????????????) of its agricultural sector between 1928 and 1940 during the ascension of Joseph Stalin. It began during and was part of the first five-year plan. The policy aimed to integrate individual landholdings and labour into nominally collectively-controlled and openly or directly state-controlled farms:
Notice how,it took 12 years. So just like most things they take away it’s just a little bit at first and most people don’t care or notice. Then 12 years later they had taken it all.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 6:57 am to LuckyTiger
quote:how many dead Ukrainian farmers does it take for people to understand this?
One of the first things Marxists always go for is the food.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 6:58 am to KiwiHead
quote:Because moron, your desire to eliminate fossil fuels increases their costs on their biggest expense.
Ok. Educate me. Tell me why I need to give you more money in the form of subsidies.....because that is what you are asking for, correct?
So guess what happens? More food gets IMPORTED because of the cost. From places not stupid enough to try and cripple their energy production.
quote:That’s because Washington is what’s killing them.
Daddy in Washington is not gonna save you.
Damn but you’re stupid.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 7:03 am to KiwiHead
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What do you suggest....more welfare for the beatfied farmer? Aren't the ethanol subsidies enough
Not 100% disagreeing with you, but if my tax dollars were to go to welfare that I could pick, keeping America’s food supply out of the hands of international corporate oligarchs would fit the bill. That’s the end game of the eco war on agriculture…getting farmland away from private citizens.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 7:14 am to llfshoals
So you are saying you want gas money? What, you need me to spot you a 20 or something.... you know what, I'll splurge and fill you up all the way.
When does the beg and bitch stop with you guys. You sound like Louisiana Shrrimpers.
When does the beg and bitch stop with you guys. You sound like Louisiana Shrrimpers.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 7:21 am to KiwiHead
quote:It’s almost funny at how stupid you are.
So you are saying you want gas money? What, you need me to spot you a 20 or something.... you know what, I'll splurge and fill you up all the way.
Sad actually though, since you can’t figure out farmers don’t want subsidies. They’d much rather have affordable energy costs.
You’re also apparently too stupid that affects transportation costs to ship their products to market.
Since Washington is determined to cripple the energy industry, what are their options?
Subsidy or Bankruptcy. Binary solution set for a large percentage of them.
You won’t get that either, because you’re a moron
Posted on 8/5/24 at 7:24 am to AUCom96
But, a subsidy you give to one, you give to all. So Jack the small farmer gets his subsidy and the CEO of Cargill gets his. ADM gets theirs as does Bill Gates. Then those guys produce crops keeping the price relatively low and Gates , ADM and Cargill use that money to buy Jack out because Jack cannot compete on scale with low prices....and for him no subsidy short of an open ended one is going to be enough.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 7:31 am to llfshoals
quote:
Because moron, your desire to eliminate fossil fuels increases their costs on their biggest expense. So guess what happens? More food gets IMPORTED because of the cost. From places not stupid enough to try and cripple their energy production.
^^^ this x 10 ^^^
frickin fertilizer costs are through the roof. And we certainly can't depend on Russia for key commodities
quote:
Western countries have not imposed any sanctions on Russian food and fertiliser exports in response to Moscow's invasion of Ukraine last year, but Moscow says its exports are hampered because sanctions make it harder for traders to process Russian payments or to obtain vessels and insurance.
Also, some individuals linked to major fertiliser companies such as EuroChem founder Andrey Melnichenko, Uralchem's Dmitry Mazepin and Acron Group's Viatcheselav Kantor have been placed on European Union sanctions lists.
These sanctions have made it more complicated for the companies to operate and more than 400,000 tonnes of fertiliser were initially stranded in European Union ports, though some have now been released and exported to Africa.
LINK
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 7:42 am
Posted on 8/5/24 at 7:33 am to llfshoals
So you want artificially cheap fuel below market prices for the average consumer? What percentage works for you?
Say you get your wish and you produce a bumper yield as does Argentina, Brazil and Argentina and the prices reflect the abundance making products cheaper but you still have over supply. Do you then come to me and ask for more money and specific policies to alleviate your pain because you decided that you deserved an inordinate discount on fuel.
Say you get your wish and you produce a bumper yield as does Argentina, Brazil and Argentina and the prices reflect the abundance making products cheaper but you still have over supply. Do you then come to me and ask for more money and specific policies to alleviate your pain because you decided that you deserved an inordinate discount on fuel.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 7:39 am to KiwiHead
quote:It is amazing to watch absolutely incompetent, brainwashed morons continue to double down on proving their lack of intelligence.
So you want artificially cheap fuel below market prices for the average consumer? What percentage works for you?
Also, FYI…kiwi is NOT a synonym of DICK.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 7:51 am to GusAU
OK say you get your wish. Then the futures markets for commodities come in and slaughter you to an extent that you'll need DNA to id the victims. What do you want when the futures market for corn, soybeans and wheat becomes so low that you cannot even recover at a moderate loss....because that could happen.
If that happens, you'll be on the street begging and you'll wish you had listened to Dicks me. Eat your shite sandwich now or you won't even be able to afford even that.
If that happens, you'll be on the street begging and you'll wish you had listened to Dicks me. Eat your shite sandwich now or you won't even be able to afford even that.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:14 am to VOR
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Yeah, that’s some laughably nonsensical campaign hogwash
You realize there has been violence and protests for years across Europe as the EU and WEF have been actively trying to end small farms over there?
You would do well to research the issue.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:45 am to RBTiger
It's all about control. They want to control our food supplies.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:47 am to TheWalrus
bullshite? So, where do you get your news from? Because the attacks on farmers from globalists has been the source of MAJOR controversy and civil unrest in Europe for a couple years now.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:49 am to VOR
quote:
Yeah, that’s some laughably nonsensical campaign hogwash
This statement, coming from you... is fricking hilarious.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:51 am to Ltown_tiger
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That is horse shite. I am a farmer and I can’t tell you when Trump was in office I made more than I ever have. frick you too. Bitch.
Glad we have some actual farmers here who can call the leftists here out on their lies and regurgitation of DNC talking points.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:55 am to tide06
quote:
You realize there has been violence and protests for years across Europe as the EU and WEF have been actively trying to end small farms over there?
You would do well to research the issue.
MSNBC and CNN have barely covered any of that so the lib lemmings here are oblivious.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:13 am to LegalEazyE
quote:Wouldn’t matter, they’d still be oblivious.
MSNBC and CNN have barely covered any of that so the lib lemmings here are oblivious.
Probably should explain what that means, ah heck why bother. They’re too stupid to understand a simple explanation.
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