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re: These allegations from the Dem whistleblower are WILD…
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:05 am to Placekicker
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:05 am to Placekicker
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LOCK UP ADAM SCHIFF NOW
The penalty for treason is death.
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:12 am to Gifman
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Not treason. This is sedition.
It’s an interesting question because they were without question conspiring with the five eyes nations to take down the sitting president using knowingly false information.
“The foundation of treason law is in Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution, which states, “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”
It clearly doesn’t meet the levying war against them clause so let’s look at the second part:
The second act of treason involves “adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.” An “enemy” under this clause is a nation or force with whom the United States is in a state of open war. This form of treason requires both adherence to the enemy, which is a conscious decision to betray the U.S., and the rendering of aid and comfort.
“Aid and comfort” includes actions that provide material assistance, such as supplying money, weapons, intelligence, or shelter. As clarified in cases like Haupt v. United States, intent is a factor; an act like providing shelter to a family member can become treasonous if done with the knowledge of the person’s mission and with the intent to help the enemy.“
It’s 100% clear that Schiff and company provided aid and comfort.
It would have to be established that they did so to aid some party with whom we were at war with in 2016 in order to be prosecuted for treason however.
The US was at war with ISIS during that period legally, but I don’t think any other groups had been listed as clear and present dangers via presidential edict.
Based on that Obama would have to be shown to be aiding ISIS in some way to raise this from sedition to treason I suspect.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:14 am to BigPerm30
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That’s fricking wild.
Not bad for some dude in his basement, shitposting while covered in a fine layer of Cheeto dust, no?
Wait. Then it was a Pied Piper op by the feds to get folks to stay complacent and not push for local change.
Where does the MOSSAD psyop part kick in, then?
Maybe it was the Bolshevik oPeRaTiOn tRuSt warnings that the enlightened nihilists screeched about.
Worst misdirection ever, since it told on the bad guys and aired their dirty laundry years ahead of time. It's almost as if it's looking more and more like there really is a team of good guys inside the Trump WH who were trying to tell us something...
Who knew?
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:16 am to Epaminondas
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They need to push the autopen issue to try to get the pardons overturned.
It's coming. Challenging the AutoPOTUS will be part of unwinding the entire illegitimate criminal gang of usurpers.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:17 am to jimmy the leg
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SFP addressing those allegations…
Wrong as usual
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:18 am to BigPerm30
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Q knew.
Nothing in that post directly reflects anything in this story
That post talks about declassifying information, not that Schiff released declassified information, and in Q fashion spoke broadly enough without direct accusations to give lots of leeway.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:19 am to dafif
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Can you pardon treason?
This isn't treason.
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Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason
18 USC 2381
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:20 am to Placekicker
DJT knew what was up.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:21 am to SlowFlowPro
Also, I never liked what Schiff did, but he basically lied to the press for three years. It makes him a scumbag, but I don't think it makes him a criminal. Same for Clapper and Brennan, although I perceive them as a little different because they were actually working in intel at the time.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:24 am to VoxDawg
quote:Schiff was pardoned.
The "No one will go to jail" bros are going to have such a hard time with this.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:25 am to Bunk Moreland
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It makes him a scumbag, but I don't think it makes him a criminal.
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Why did [Schiff] push false 'Russia evidence' narrative post closed door interviews [no evidence of collusion]?
Why did [Schiff] coordinate w/ WH NSC [through proxy] to arrange for Ukraine whistleblower?
Why did [Schiff] actively leak KNOWINGLY false statements during-post classified sessions to MSM?
Why did [Schiff] illegally surveil [phone] members of WH legal team, media, and Congress?
Homeboy is looking at "Scumbag" in the rear view mirror. By the time this all shakes out, he's going to be in Benedict Arnold territory.
And maybe it's just as well...
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 7:29 am
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:26 am to Bunk Moreland
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Also, I never liked what Schiff did, but he basically lied to the press for three years. It makes him a scumbag, but I don't think it makes him a criminal. Same for Clapper and Brennan, although I perceive them as a little different because they were actually working in intel at the time.
In terms of non-criminal punishment, since Schiff is still in government he can be dragged a bit for this, publicly.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:27 am to Epaminondas
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Serious question Can you pardon treason?
Yes.
The problem for Schiff is, he has continued to peddle this shite AFTER his autopen pardon.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:27 am to Scruffy
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Schiff was pardoned.
I postulated in the other thread that this could be a case where they test the autopen pardon (b/c that will require a prosecution). The allegations are slimy enough to insulate from public reactions.
But there are other immunity angles potentially. That may dissuade prosecution.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:32 am to Scruffy
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Schiff was pardoned.
A pardon was signed... by a machine.
Even the bug-eyed pervert didn't necessarily agree with receiving it.
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Sen. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) called his preemptive pardon from former President Biden, announced Monday for all past members of the now-defunct House. Jan. 6 committee in the final moments of his presidency, “unnecessary” and “unwise.”
“I continue to believe that the grant of pardons to a committee that undertook such important work to uphold the law was unnecessary, and because of the precedent it establishes, unwise,” Schiff said in a statement. “But I certainly understand why President Biden believed he needed to take this step in light of the persistent and baseless threats issued by Donald Trump and individuals who are now some of his law enforcement nominees.”
Schiff was one of nine members of the committee that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack, all of whom were offered preemptive pardons by Biden in a clemency action dated Sunday. Biden also pardoned the police officers who testified before the panel and the panel’s staff.
Those “full and unconditional” pardons cover any offenses tied to the “activities or subject matter” of the committee and are not restricted to a specific time period.
Though it’s typical for presidents to grant clemency at the end of their term, Biden has pushed the limits of the presidential pardon power by offering relief to individuals who have so far faced no investigation.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5096383-schiff-biden-pardon-unnecessary-unwise/
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:33 am to MMauler
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Did he get a blanket pardon
I think his pardon was only regarding the J6 committee.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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SFP addressing those allegations…
Wrong as usual
would these allegations classify as "lawfare"?
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:35 am to tide06
Yes. The key is if other nation states were involved.
If so. That IS treason.
The next few days will be interesting.
If so. That IS treason.
The next few days will be interesting.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:37 am to Screaming Viking
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would these allegations classify as "lawfare"?
As I asked in the other thread, how? There is no legal process involved.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:39 am to Houag80
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Yes. The key is if other nation states were involved.
Apparently they have to be foreign nations with whom we were at war which I personally hadn’t realized was part of the equation.
It’s beyond doubt that five eyes were involved, but making it stick with ISIS receiving aid is probably an unnecessary stretch when the sedition charges are pretty much self evident.
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