re: There is a full on insurgency in Mexico extremely close to our borders

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This cannot be allowed so close to our country if we want to take the Monroe doctrine seriously in a modern form

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You should go fight them.

Mexico has a basic geography problem that it has never managed to truly solve.

The core of Mexico is a mountainous plateau bereft of navigable waterways connecting it to the coast. Mexico’s government, agriculture, and largest cities are located here.

Mexico possesses vast areas geographically cut off from one another that are outside of that plateau which also separate the plateau from its neighbors and export corridors. The northern deserts, coastal jungles, and the Yucatan Peninsula are all culturally and ethnically from the core.

If Mexico embraces federalism/democracy, the outlying provinces tend to rebel, cutting the core off from trade partners. If Mexico goes authoritarian, its lower classes rebel. If Mexico opposes the cartels, the cartels start murdering everyone. If they embrace the cartels, the U.S. starts intervening.

As such, Mexico’s governments are inherently unstable, and have to thread the eye of a needle to maintain any semblance of peace, security, or the appearance of democracy.

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We have the technology to wipe out all the Cartels without risking a single soldier.

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Yea, that isn't a real thing.

Even our most advanced weapons can't just identify and extract the cartels from every level of Mexican society and government. Only boots on the ground can do that. It isn't possible to just kill them all---you should have learned that from our three decades of whack-a-mole in the Middle East.

Please protect the beautiful hot blooded latinas amongst them.

My wife is Puerto Rican.

4’11 thick with big tities.

We must protect them at all cost

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extract the cartels

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You don't extract them. You drone them to death or use other advanced technology that we haven't used yet. The Cartels are terrorists you don't 'negotiate' or try to capture them. You kill them. We absolutely have the technology to do this now that we didn't have in 2005. There is ZERO reson for any boots on the ground in Mexico. It can all be done remotely now.

As long as there exists black market demand for their product, there will always be a cartel to supply it. Nature abhors a vacuum, drugs are addictive, and prohibition creates massive black markets which can only really be filled by organized crime.

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Read the rest of the thread tsoy where I explain how I think this fits into a modern interpretation before you comment please

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Dude, just stop with the “Monroe doctrine.” It is not whatever you imagine it to be. You can’t change it now that Monroe is no longer president. Call it something new, fine. But we can’t just redefine historical things.

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Mexico is a huge country with a large population and a legit economy that can't afford such silliness.

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We are having a fundamental breakdown of understanding here unfortunately. You see I don’t consider Mexico as an entity, or a nation state, or a country, or whatever.

I see it as a bunch of balkanized city states and about 70% of the country by conservative estimates are controlled by the cartels, not the “Mexican government”

Their economy, while you do have a point in the context you’re making, and does provide some important things for us is largely held together by remittances sent back from America and illegal cartel activity like drugs, prostitution, protection schemes, murder for hire, and on and on.

I don’t know how you people don’t see the longer you just allow this to exist as the status quo the worse it becomes year on year.

What’s that saying? Whatever should be done eventually should be done immediately