re: The worldwide impact of Christianity- positive or negative?

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Don’t force your false dichotomy on me, friend.

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You stated that Christians rejected other religions and successfully spread because Christianity is true. Considering how Muslims reject other religions and successfully spread at a higher rate (not only birth rate but conversions also) then per your logic it is because Islam is true. It is a logical conundrum for you and not your best argument. Take the “L” on that one and move on.

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Popularity and truth, though compatible, are not mutually dependent.

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You used the word “because”. You didn’t describe it is some kind of correlation.

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Christianity is not true because we believe it- we believe it because it’s true

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“Because the Bible tells me so.”

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That’s certainly one way to look at it. Or, it could be that any influence provided by these pre-existing religions was a necessary component of Christianity; purified and grafted in by the Master Engineer. Depends on one’s bias. Neither position can be proven.

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Come on PS, you’re going to call the guy who couldn’t foresee putting two humans without knowledge of right and wrong in a garden next to a tree they weren’t supposed to eat from that looked to have delicious fruit and put a trickster talking snake with legs into the mix who actually had divine knowledge… a master engineer? The guy who had to hit the reset button and kill everything in a cataclysmic flood? The guy who had to send himself to be killed as a sacrifice to himself to forgive people for not being able to hold themselves to impossible expectations to save them from a hell that he created because he was otherwise incapable of forgiveness? I ain’t buying it.

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Depends on one’s bias. Neither position can be proven.

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Only mathematical concepts can be proven. When it comes to history, we have to look at the overwhelming preponderance of evidence to see which hypothesis are best supported and are most likely to have happened in the past. The overwhelming preponderance of evidence supports what I described that Christianity sprung out of Enochian Judaism which is itself an evolved mixture of Canaanite polytheism mixed with Zoroastrianism concepts of “ha Satan” and angels and the afterlife and the righteous being rewarded and the evil being punished in the next life… all Zoroastrian concepts plus the biggest of all that there is only one god who should be worshipped. That is the overwhelming scholarly consensus.

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If it were the superior ideology, it would have supplanted Christianity without relying solely on military conquest and reproduction of low IQ followers.

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That’s a lot of speculation from a very biased person.

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Have you ever seen a Christian debate a Muslim? It’s not even close.

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More bias. In Truth they are both sadly mistaken and live in a false reality.

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You’re grasping. How about compare the US to any middle eastern Muslim nation.

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Even if Christianity led to a higher work ethic and more creativity and other benefits, it doesn’t mean that the tenets or theology has any basis in truth or reality or facts.

There is no other one. Jesus’ church is the Catholic Church.

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You stated that Christians rejected other religions and successfully spread because Christianity is true.

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Forgive me. I mean to say that Christianity both works and is true.

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“Because the Bible tells me so.”

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Because the Bible makes sense of what I see around me. The Bible helps me understand who I am and who God is. To me, your incessant referrals to admittedly challenging moral situations in the OT, is like a 10yr old complaining about a spanking he got when he was 6. No offense, I’m doubting your intelligence. But it’s the same basic concept. One you learn over time. Takes some longer than others.

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Come on PS, you’re going to call the guy who couldn’t foresee

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What, exactly, is it about Christianity that makes you think we should believe that?

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Only mathematical concepts can be proven.

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Literally everything else requires varying degrees of faith. All hypotheses require an assumption. That assumption is inherently biased. A dichotomy is formed. Sides are chosen. Theories are reinforced by shared group bias. You’re looking for reasons to doubt, I’m looking for reasons to believe. We’re both finding what we’re looking for.

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That’s a lot of speculation from a very biased person.

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Yes, but do you agree with my statement?

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More bias. In Truth they are both sadly mistaken and live in a false reality.

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CAPITAL T??? Seriously though, Christians routinely expose the many actual contradictions of Islam using their own text. It’s similar to what you do, except that it’s actually effective because (unlike well read Christians) they are repeatedly caught in lies and exposed for their ignorance of what their own texts say. Which I can understand out of the typical practitioners of any religion (Christianity included), but we’re talking about their very best. Islam, in its purest form, is truly a religion of ignorance and fear.

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Even if Christianity led to a higher work ethic and more creativity and other benefits, it doesn’t mean that the tenets or theology has any basis in truth or reality or facts.

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Christianity has literally formed the reality that you exist in. And yet again, you fail to explain how atheism could or would give rise to a superior society, or even begin to explain how you would replace it as is. You’ve got some ‘splainin to do.

What is up with multiple rage bait Christian threads on page 1?

I thought religion was a no go.

Are you guys libtard homos trying to distract from all the winning taking place?

Or just dumb fricks who don't follow the rules now that there is no moderation here?

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Plenty of intelligence in China and with Islam.

Do better.

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Funny. "Do better" is exactly what I'd tell the Chinese and Islamic world about how they treat their people.

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But I’m more interested in hearing a solid case for the abandonment of Christianity.

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Simply....... there is No case for that. The word Christianity has been twisted
and bent to fit a a persons moral code, It. all Boils down to..... you either believe in God or not, There is no morality, without God period, and there are those that will argue that point.

We have been warned what the penalty will be and Judgement day is coming, there is no stopping it, Gods wrath will be fast for those that don't believe just my 2 cents,,,,,,

[quote]What is the superior ideology and why?[/quote

Buddhism

It’s the most tolerant and accepting and gives a pretty good and easily understood framework on how to be happy and increase the happiness of others. It also encourages people to think for them selves which is unusual in religion and shows how confident they are in the teachings