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re: The worldwide impact of Christianity- positive or negative?
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:09 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:09 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
Someone will chime in about the indians and their advancements in math and their sheer number of them in the tech companies.
But they must first remember that in 2025 they are still going outside to shite in the streets.
But they must first remember that in 2025 they are still going outside to shite in the streets.
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Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:10 pm to Prodigal Son
Every time a lost sinner is saved by Christ is obviously positive.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:11 pm to Prodigal Son
The impact is incredible morally, spiritually, and socially. It has provided a template that has allowed humanity, often in spite of itself, to come to this point in history.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:19 pm to DaleDenton
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China is good at copying and stealing, they come up with very little on their own.
Seriously? Paper, gunpowder, the compass, moveable type, the mechanical clock, alcohol, rockets, iron smelting? We even got the toothbrush from them.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:19 pm to Evolved Simian
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Seriously? Paper, gunpowder, the compass, moveable type, the mechanical clock, alcohol, rockets, iron smelting? We even got the toothbrush from them.
How about the last few centuries?
Or, since 1948?
This post was edited on 2/9/25 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:22 pm to Prodigal Son
Well.... Christianity doesn't dictate that anyone who renounces their belief in Jesus must have their head chopped off.....
So there's that ....
So there's that ....
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:22 pm to Prodigal Son
Positive. Has brought cohesion and stability.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:23 pm to Evolved Simian
That was the old china.
A guy named Mao moved China forward from these old ways.
Since then their advancements in society have been not because of innovation but because of technology given to them by Christian countries, the US being the worst offender.
A guy named Mao moved China forward from these old ways.
Since then their advancements in society have been not because of innovation but because of technology given to them by Christian countries, the US being the worst offender.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:26 pm to DaleDenton
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But they must first remember that in 2025 they are still going outside to shite in the streets.
The Bible has strict rules concerning when, where and how to 'do your business'- very hygienic.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:26 pm to Prodigal Son
Get behind me satan
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:26 pm to BuckyCheese
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How about the last few centuries?
They peaked when their imperial era did. Communism almost killed them completely.
A desire for western wealth is fueling a 2nd dynasty. We'll see how that plays out.
For all the talk about Christianity in this thread, there doesn't seem to be much input so far about how many centuries the RCC impeded European economic and cultural development.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:28 pm to Evolved Simian
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For all the talk about Christianity in this thread, there doesn't seem to be much input so far about how many centuries the RCC impeded European economic and cultural development.
Cuz it's still better than anything else.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:36 pm to SallysHuman
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Cuz it's still better than anything else.
My ancestors could have been on a rocket to Mars in the 1700's instead of a boat to North Carolina if not for you Catholics.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:37 pm to Squirrelmeister
I didn’t think it would take you long. Do you have alerts set up on your phone? That was fast.
From an application standpoint, that’s impressive in its own right.
For the sake of argument, let’s grant this premise. What can you put in its place, that will meet or exceed the ‘positive’ results that Christianity has provided? What evidence can you provide to support this claim?
Was Islam somehow denied some opportunity to claim the ideological high ground? In any event, does it matter? Islam is rife with contradictions- so much so that atheists like you don’t even bother to disprove it.
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Net impact - positive
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It’s tough to say but although it has facilitated a lot of evil and a lot of good, I’d say the net impact is positive.
From an application standpoint, that’s impressive in its own right.
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In 2025 though it is utterly backwards and irrelevant, and its theology and assessment of the natural world is untrue and incorrect.
For the sake of argument, let’s grant this premise. What can you put in its place, that will meet or exceed the ‘positive’ results that Christianity has provided? What evidence can you provide to support this claim?
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Islam, if it had spread throughout Europe 2000 years ago, probably would have accomplished about the exact same thing… it would have united an intelligent and creative massive group of peoples that would have likely stayed divided and tribal without the political and religious influence.
Was Islam somehow denied some opportunity to claim the ideological high ground? In any event, does it matter? Islam is rife with contradictions- so much so that atheists like you don’t even bother to disprove it.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:38 pm to Evolved Simian
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Evolved Simian
I know I am on an LSU board, but I'm not Catholic, nor am I in Louisiana.
I'm somewhere between Eastern Orthodox and Presbyterian (PCA).
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:40 pm to Evolved Simian
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My ancestors could have been on a rocket to Mars in the 1700's instead of a boat to North Carolina if not for you Catholics.
Sorry for winning.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:42 pm to SallysHuman
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I'm somewhere between Eastern Orthodox and Presbyterian (PCA).
Now that’s interesting.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:43 pm to Evolved Simian
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My ancestors could have been on a rocket to Mars in the 1700's
Interesting. What makes you think this?
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:46 pm to Rebel
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if not for Christianity, you are mostly likely drawing on the ground with a stick.
If not for advanced Greek and Roman culture, there wouldn’t have been Christianity. There would have been no gospels if not for Homer’s Iliad and the Odessey. Christianity would have struggled or died off completely had it not been for emperor Constantine.
No, we wouldn’t be drawing with sticks on the ground.
I mentioned Christianity was a net positive but it’s just speculation and I could be wrong. It did a lot of damage and held back progress for hundreds of years. But even before Christianity we had some advanced civilizations.
Think about it - when did Christians actually eclipse Roman/Hellenistic civilization? Maybe the 1600s?
Posted on 2/9/25 at 7:46 pm to Prodigal Son
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Now that’s interesting.
I'm officially PCA... but am really drawn to the EO at the moment. Everybody talks about the Reformation, but The Great Schism has a lot to be learned from. I get my 95 Thesis AND a few extra books in my EO cannon. Win/win.
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