re: The winning continues - Cali federal judge upholds Trumps EO cutting off subsidies

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The private insurers are required by law to administer the cost-sharing subsidies. The things that bring down people's out-of-pocket expenses and deductibles.

To offset those loses of being forced to pay those cost-sharing subsidies without reimbursement, the insurers are over-compensating by raising premiums to cover those costs. Raising the cost to the un-subsidized consumer and to the taxpayer. There is no magic BS, this is pretty straight forward.

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so the population gets to feel the real effects of the ACA? sounds OK to me

much better for them to feel it directly, through their premiums, than indirectly, through taxes

SFP

You are about to be at treefiddy

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so you agree with Trump?

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I agree with stabilizing the markets and taking out the grayness of the payments, not sabotaging the market and baking in costs for no other reason than you are looking for Fox News headlines to fawn yourself over and because you are ignorant of what you are doing.

At any point int he last 10 months he has had the ability to get something like this passed with majority Democrats and some Republicans. Instead he has chosen the most idiotic path to the taxpayer and consumer, at probably the dumbest time.

I notice though that you have not disagreed with any of the facts I have presented you, which proves my point. The only defense is the one Trump himself had ignored for his entire presidency.

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I agree with stabilizing the markets and taking out the grayness of the payments, not sabotaging the market and baking in costs for no other reason than you are looking for Fox News headlines to fawn yourself over and because you are ignorant of what you are doing.

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2 courts have ruled that these payments are illegal. one directly (DC circuit) and one indirectly (this new ruling from Cali)

how is following the law "sabotaging the market"?

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At any point int he last 10 months he has had the ability to get something like this passed with majority Democrats and some Republicans.

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Trump is a member of Congress, now? do tell

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I notice though that you have not disagreed with any of the facts I have presented you, which proves my point.

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I guess it is purely about the tribal victories at this point huh?

Since if you judge victories by how the policies actually affect people, well:

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Oh look! Shareblue brought out Level 2 troll

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yeah the excess cost of the law

previously these costs were passed on via general appropriation via taxes, so it wasn't really felt

now the consumers get to actually see the real sticker price of this law. those are the "real effects"

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Again, this is very simple, we can draw you a diagram if you need it. But I think that would just fail you as well.

Trump's sabotage has injected uncertainty, the result is that insurers are charging more to the taxpayer to make up the difference. The law as is, administered the way the law was intended would of been cheaper to the taxpayer and consumer. As the CBO reported on. Trump has decided in his sabotage to ultimately raise that cost to the consumer/tax-payer without any immediate solution that could of prevented it. Any solution now will only be viable for the following year.

Simple cause and effect here. You sabotage something, increase uncertainty, increase the costs to an insurers, the overall risk rises and insurers have to account for that.


.....But keep on spinning. The divine rights of king Trump know all amirite? It can never be he fricked up, God emperor never fricks up, only his advisors or the people criticizing him are wrong.

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Trump's sabotage has injected uncertainty,

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for a cycle? likely

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. As the CBO reported on. Trump has decided in his sabotage to ultimately raise that cost to the consumer/tax-payer without any immediate solution that could of prevented it.

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Trump's hands are tied, as the solution has to come from Congress. Trump is just following the law, as it related to the ACA and appropriations from Congress. we have branches of government and Trump is part of the executive and Congress is the legislative.

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You sabotage something

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by following the law

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Trump's hands are tied, as the solution has to come from Congress. Trump is just following the law, as it related to the ACA and appropriations from Congress. we have branches of government and Trump is part of the executive and Congress is the legislative.

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Trump's hands aren't tied today anymore than they were when he authorized the cost-sharing subsidies half a dozen times before.

Something like Alexander-Murray has been available to him since his inauguration.

And if he had wanted, he could of used his bully pulpit and threat of veto to make sure Republicans give it stronger consideration. He chose 11th hour sabotage and so far near inaction to addressing the situation. And the results are higher consumer and taxpayer costs for the foreseeable future until this is addressed.

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All of the negative effect on people you have listed is a result of the disaster that is Obamacare. You've been told this by people who understand economics from the beginning. You refuse to listen.

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Yep