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The wall issue is about one thing and one thing only

Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:46 am
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:46 am
Future votes.

Dems don't give a shite about the lives of people coming here from South America. They're just future generational voting blocks for them. And it will continue to grow.

And that's all they care about. If you say I'm wrong, you're lying and you know it.

This is what American politics is now. Creating voting blocks, not helping Americans.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 9:09 am
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31881 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:48 am to
Actually, you’re right. But it’s DT securing his with a promise he made.

That wall is horseshite. Go investigate the fricking facts. The wall is nothing but a bullshite ploy.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 8:50 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39372 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:48 am to
Same with voter ID. Their intentions are clear.

The only difference is they constantly insist they want to fix the issue at the border, except they stifle reform -any measure of reform- every chance they get.
Posted by Amblin
Member since Sep 2011
2562 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:49 am to
And that is why we need Voter ID reform. If you prevent illegals from voting, it would resolve these issues the Dems keep promoting. To me Voter fraud is just a big as illegals entering the US and border security. If you cannot have honest and valid elections, then nothing else matters.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:53 am to
Here is the big difference Suzy Q. Trump campaigned on the wall, the American people elected Trump based on that campaign and he is now going to deliver on that.

Democrats run on saying “border security is important” they snow Jon enough people to get them in office and then change their tunes.

Seriously, what new evidence came out in the last 5 or so years that shows a wall would now be ineffective? Given Schumer, Pelosi, Obama, Clinton, et al were talking up a wall in the not so distant past what’s changed?

Right. Not a damn thing except 1) who is in charge, 2) dems are seeing the beginning of cracks in thebAA voting blocks and they know once the black vote leaves the democrat plantation it’s all over unless they find a steady stream of new victim class votes.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:59 am to
I find that, in general, latino voters tend to be more conservative in their views. What makes you say this is about future votes?

ETA: i see your below post. because they are brown. got it.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 9:01 am
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24676 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 8:59 am to
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And that is why we need Voter ID reform. If you prevent illegals from voting, it would resolve these issues the Dems keep promoting. To me Voter fraud is just a big as illegals entering the US and border security. If you cannot have honest and valid elections, then nothing else matters.


I am speaking more of the slow play of immigrants coming here as democratic voters for generations to come.

Republicans are being bred out essentially.

Bring in millions of immigrants who lean Democrat, that's generation after generation of votes.

In the not so far off future, Republicans will have no chance in national elections.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24676 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:02 am to
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Actually, you’re right. But it’s DT securing his with a promise he made. That wall is horseshite. Go investigate the fricking facts. The wall is nothing but a bullshite ploy.


Why are you so outraged over spending money such a small amount of money on the wall, when facts do in fact show it'll be effective.

What is it really about, Charles?

We've seen threads indicating the facts. You're on the losing side.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24676 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:04 am to
quote:

I find that, in general, latino voters tend to be more conservative in their views. What makes you say this is about future votes? ETA: i see your below post. because they are brown. got it.


Facts? Are you this stupid?





This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 9:06 am
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:04 am to
quote:

The wall issue is about one thing and one thing only
Future votes.

Dems don't give a shite about the lives of people coming here from South America. They're just future votes for them.
So what is the reason Republicans have done nothing about illegal immigration?

Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
6902 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:06 am to
You can’t really believe that. Walls work if done properly. A proper wall would greatly diminish the number of illegals pouring in.

And what do we have to lose by building it? 5 billion? “Crumbs” compared to the 116 billion a year American taxpayers spends on funding illegal immigrants.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22229 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:07 am to
Trump has ALL the power here. Everybody (according to the MSM) already hates him! He has nothing to lose by standing his ground. Amarite?
Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
6902 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:07 am to
quote:

So what is the reason Republicans have done nothing about illegal immigration?


Half of them are RINOS
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24676 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:08 am to
quote:

So what is the reason Republicans have done nothing about illegal immigration?


Political suicide thanks to the media support and democrats for illegal immigration. You paying attention to politics these days?

Anytime a Republican brings up illegal immigration, they are immediately labeled as cold hearted racists.

Feel free to disagree, but I'm correct.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19490 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:08 am to

And that is who can piss the furthest and win the contest.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4436 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:09 am to
Charles, while you are certainly justified in having your opinion, I am going to stick to the guys that do this for a living.

Border Agents Disagree With You
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:10 am to
quote:

So what is the reason Republicans have done nothing about illegal immigration?



Political suicide thanks to the media support and democrats for illegal immigration.
So you admit that Republicans have done nothing about it for the same reason Democrats have done nothing about it.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:11 am to
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Border Agents Disagree With You

You mean the handful of border agents cherry picked by the Trump administration?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24676 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:12 am to
Hey 9th life,

Respond to my post to you.

Why do you think Pelosi and Schumer and all the other democrats would even want to curb illegal immigration? That's votes in their pockets.

California is already 40% Hispanic now. Only a matter of time.

And that's why Democrats want as many Hispanics here as possible.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9111 posts
Posted on 1/9/19 at 9:12 am to
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That wall is horse shite. Go investigate the fricking facts. The wall is nothing but a bull shite ploy.


Why is it nothing but a ploy? The simple fact of the matter is walls DO work where they're built large and well. THAT is why Dems are against it. In their entire history as a party Dems haven't given a s### about spending their asses off on any and every government program they could think of. Now all of a sudden 5.7 billion dollars...less than half a percent of the annual federal budget is just too much to spend for them? They were proposing as much as $25 billion annually just 5 and 10 years ago for border security but now $5.7 billion is just too much. Total frickin horse#### but their sycophants in the mainstream media will parrot their talking points until the general public starts to buy their BS.

Border security and a wall was apparently a priority for Dems just a few years ago but now any money towards it is unacceptable to Dems for two reasons. The obvious one being "Orange Man Baddddd!!" and the second one being future voters. Turning Texas and/or Arizona blue is the Left's wet dream and they know a wall will dramatically slow the likelihood of that happening soon.
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