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re: The used car market is on the brink of an auto loan collapse

Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:39 am to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17733 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:39 am to
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What does this mean for those of us who bought a 2018 Kia Optima with 98,000 miles for $46,000?


The good news is, with the easy in-house financing of Honest Hakim’s Automotive Emporium, the monthly payment of this world class auto worked out to a measly $199.00 a month for the rest of your natural born existence on this spinning orb!

Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10616 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:41 am to
Exorbitant loans + recession w/ layoffs = what could go wrong?
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:49 am to
Isn't this sort of like what happened in the Great Depression? Nobody had any money so demand dropped and the price of everything just kept dropping and dropping until pennies were real money.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79134 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 10:56 am to
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Car defaults are usually a signal of real estate defaults and recession. There about a 6-month preview of what's to come


Interesting point. Often wondered which avalanche comes first - car loan defaults or mortgage defaults. You aren’t defaulting on a mortgage any faster than a car note I would think. No money is no money regardless of what you’re supposed to be paying.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:00 am to
From someone who was 30 years in the business, if you want to get rich in the automobile business, start setting up a "buy here-pay here" operation BEFORE it hits the fan!
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 11:55 am
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18309 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:00 am to
Predicted this 4 years ago.
Posted by BlueDogTiger
Member since Jan 2014
1310 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:08 am to
The collateral on used car loans is irrelevant. Banks are lending on credit and expect those loans on their books for half the actual term. Value is zero to them.
Posted by Txtiger54
League city,Tx
Member since Aug 2009
607 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:14 am to
so true, wokism is leftist madness to transform America to O'Bamas vision, another 3rd world South American country.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12177 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:16 am to
Used cars are priced way to high right now.

In 2020 I bought a 2 year old Nissan Sentra with 30,000 miles for 12,000$.

I’m looking for my next child and A 4 year old Nissan Sentras with 50,000 miles are selling for 18,000$.

This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 11:29 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90617 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:25 am to
This is all part of the cycle to get inflation under control.

The people can’t bear the brunt of it all. Corporations and banks will have to eat their share of shite too. Banks and corporations should never have been bailed out in 2008
Posted by RAB
Member since Aug 2019
987 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:40 am to


“Equity” = subprime lending. They will never learn.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45763 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:41 am to
Thanks, Graham.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71083 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 11:50 am to
In normal times, vehicles are a rapidly depreciating asset.

Subprime vehicle loans are based on a business model where you repo and resell the same vehicle multiple times.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57221 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:01 pm to
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The reality is that lenders have given buyers unaffordable loans without verifying their financials on car values that cannot be sustained without a chip shortage.


Sounds like a personal problem to me.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

In normal times, vehicles are a rapidly depreciating asset.

Subprime vehicle loans are based on a business model where you repo and resell the same vehicle multiple times.


You're talking about buy here-pay here operations. They're extremely profitable IF run properly.
When folks start trying to trade their current vehicles and find themselves with a TON of negative equity (known as being upside down in the car business), they'll start turning them in to the lending institutions, or having them repoed left and right!
That's when a well run and inventoried operation starts making bank! The down payment required is at least what you're got in the car, and payments are usually set up weekly.
Posted by dualed
Member since Sep 2010
4695 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:15 pm to
Good!
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4967 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 1:23 pm to
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In 12-18 months, who’s going to buy an expensive electric car when they will be giving away used cars?


This gonna be about the time I will be looking to get another vehicle.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 1:35 pm to
I was going to buy a used car, but then I decided to wait. This is why.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98814 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 1:40 pm to
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Maybe the banks should more selective as to who they give loans too


Racist
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 7/2/22 at 1:45 pm to
Pretty sure my neighbor who has a used car lot deals coke. If his already exorbitant lifestyle doesn’t change, it will be final confirmation.
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