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re: The tweet about targeting things of importance to Iranian culture
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:38 am to DavidTheGnome
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:38 am to DavidTheGnome
I think it's a threat.
I don't support that. Take out military assets instead.
I don't support that. Take out military assets instead.
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Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:48 am to kmdawg17
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So many people don't realize how the Geneva Conventions handicaps us, and we're the only damn country that abides by the thing.
It hasn't kept any countries from torturing our soldiers and dragging them through the streets. It only prevents us from doing the same thing.
Not being able to torture people isn’t a handicap.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:54 am to DavidTheGnome
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Not being able to torture people isn’t a handicap.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 12:01 pm to DavidTheGnome
Iran has 25 sites dedicated to oil production and 27 sites dedicated to missiles that is how Trump got the number of 52. I am pretty sure that these sites are important to Iranian culture being as the oil production is what keeps the country paid.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 12:17 pm to Chemcorp158
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is how Trump got the number of 52
I read the number 52 was picked because that’s how many hostages were taken in the 70s? I would think Iran has much more than 25 sites dedicated to oil production.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:07 pm to ShortyRob
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Unsurprising post from Wild
As it should. I just happen to think we shouldn't be borrowing money to send our forces half way around the world defending other people. Our people are in harm's way for no good reason, we should get them out of harm's way. For you to suggest that we should be interfering in other nations' internal affairs without any expectation of retribution is stupid and thus not surprising coming from you.
The longer we stay in the ME, the more Americans will die - NO MATTER WHAT THE PRESIDENT DOES.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:10 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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For you to suggest that we should be interfering in other nations' internal affairs without any expectation of retribution is stupid and thus not surprising coming from you.
Seems a weird point to make for a situation where we were attacked by operatives of one country while in the confines of another.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:11 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
A few months ago, everyone on here was arguing that we get all of our soldiers out of the ME. It seems like that thinking has done a total reversal now.
Iraq wants us out of their country. We should leave.
Iraq wants us out of their country. We should leave.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:13 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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A few months ago, everyone on here was arguing that we get all of our soldiers out of the ME. It seems like that thinking has done a total reversal now.
Iraq wants us out of their country. We should leave.
Did you miss this thread?
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Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:15 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Did you miss this thread?
Did you miss this tweet?
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“If they do ask us to leave, if we don’t do it in a very friendly basis. We will charge them sanctions like they’ve never seen before ever. It’ll make Iranian sanctions look somewhat tame.”
“We have a very extraordinarily expensive air base that’s there,” he said. “It cost billions of dollars to build. Long before my time. We’re not leaving unless they pay us back for it.”
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:17 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Which do you figure is more representative of "everyone on here" and why?
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:20 pm to ShortyRob
quote:But if you have any brains whatsoever, you do not take an axe to grandma's antique armoire and then burn the pieces, just because it happens to be in the kid's room.
It's like when your kid doesn't do their homework after you've told them if they don't do it, they can't go to the concert they planned to attend.
Failure to get to the concert is 100% on them
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:24 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Like I said in my other post.
But if you have any brains whatsoever, you do not take an axe to grandma's antique armoire and then burn the pieces, just because it happens to be in the kid's room.
It's pretty obvious that in fact, he is simply saying that some of the high ranking targets are important to Iranian culture in the same way that perhaps out Capital building is.
That said, the hand wringing over this is amusing because pretty much 100% of the people doing it don't actually give two frick's about getting rid of cultural shite they don't like.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:24 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Which do you figure is more representative of "everyone on here" and why?
I haven't seen many posts today calling for a full withdrawal of all troops in the region.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:29 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I haven't seen many posts today calling for a full withdrawal of all troops in the region.
I still support full withdrawal but, keep in mind, this started over an embassy and, we sort of SHOULD protect our embassies.
Moreover, if you choose target one, you should expect reprisal which, alas, requires military attention.
But, I'm still 100% over nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan so, we can stop that shite pronto.
But, again, it's silly to think that any nation can just stand by while a nation fosters an attack on one of our embassies.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:34 pm to DavidTheGnome
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What are your thoughts, is Trump really calling for bombing of non-military cultural sites? Or was this just worded badly and that’s not really what he meant? And if he did mean it, do you support it and should that be our aim?
The Mullahs actually destroyed many antiquities when they took power. In a place as ancient as Persia, cultural sites are ubiquitous and could be used as a shield for personnel or equipment. It’s interesting he referred specifically to Iranian, not Persian, cultural sites. Could have some stupid revolution monument in mind. Symbolism is important in that part of the world. The only way to deal with a psychopath is to make them think you’re as bad/worse. I support the threat but, of course, don’t want to see the world lose any more history.
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:34 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Seems a weird point to make for a situation where we were attacked by operatives of one country while in the confines of another.
WE were attacked?
Where exactly were "we"? In the confines of our own country? What, exactly, is our Department of Defense supposed to be defending? Other people? And we're borrowing money to pay for that? My two questions are: "What in the frick are we doing over there?" and, "What the frick do we expect to happen we we put our soldiers in the middle of an Islamic war?"
But then, this is all just wag the dog shite to keep people's eyes off of the impeachment - a la Bill Clinton.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:34 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Seems a weird point to make for a situation where we were attacked by operatives of one country while in the confines of another.
WE were attacked?
Where exactly were "we"? In the confines of our own country? What, exactly, is our Department of Defense supposed to be defending? Other people? And we're borrowing money to pay for that? My two questions are: "What in the frick are we doing over there?" and, "What the frick do we expect to happen we we put our soldiers in the middle of an Islamic war?"
But then, this is all just wag the dog shite to keep people's eyes off of the impeachment - a la Bill Clinton.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:35 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
So, you are of the position that we should have NO foreign embassies?
Posted on 1/6/20 at 1:38 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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It seems like that thinking has done a total reversal now.
Dude, this place spins around faster than an old 78.
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Iraq wants us out of their country. We should leave.
Hell, most people wants us out of that country, we should leave. But, unfortunately, there are an influential few who want us there for their own personal benefit. So we stay.
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