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re: The Truth: No One is Born Gay or Trans.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:40 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:40 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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But in my opinion, it implies that sexuality, including homosexuality is all environmental, cultural, and/or learned. That is factually incorrect.
Oh. Ok. We agree.
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In the animal world, especially primates, homosexual behavior is not a super rare occurrence.
Sure. But much of the time, primates are analogous to prison-gay. There are NOT bands of homosexual orangutans wandering the jungles and making beautiful art.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 12:52 pm
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:07 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Your primate question has nothing to do with being gay and everything to do with dominance. There aren’t groups of “gay” primates roaming the jungles. They still mate with female primates
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:15 pm to Rip Torn
quote:Homosexual activity absolutely occurs in primates.
“gay” primates
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:15 pm to hogcard1964
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It's conditioning. They were born feminine, a lot of males are. The gay part comes later. It's totally learned.
Well, his two younger brothers are totally different - Very athletic and masculine, so who did they learn from?
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:31 pm to the808bass
quote:Because all homosexual tendency is not alike.
Why isn’t the concordance rate 1.00?
Limited tendency can be suppressed.
A K4 who could be happy in solely gay relationships, would almost assuredly pursue only heterosexual relationships in Muslim countries where he'd be defenestrated for involvement in a gay entanglement. A K6, on the other hand, would either remain celibate, or risk the consequences of homosexual exposure.
Similarly, monozygotic Kinsey 3 or 4's might not be concordant in sexual expression. K0 or K6's would be 100% concordant.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:34 pm to NC_Tigah
Just so we are clear, you are claiming that homosexual activity among primates is the same as a gay human? You would be biologically incorrect. I know many of you want it to be true but primates do not engage in homosexual relationships nor do they choose to not mate with other females because they are “gay”. That is solely unique to humans. You are conflating male dominance with being “gay”
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:47 pm to Rip Torn
quote:Just so we are clear, you are claiming that heterosexual activity among primates is the same as straight humans? You would be biologically incorrect.
Just so we are clear, you are claiming that homosexual activity among primates is the same as a gay human?
quote:Just so we're clear, the extent of chimps' heterosexual "relationships" are that the dominant male chimp mates with all the females. As soon as he's no longer dominant, the females, everyone of them, mate with his successor. If anything, their homosexual activity mimics grooming, which is far more "relationship" oriented.
primates do not engage in homosexual relationships
Posted on 8/29/25 at 1:49 pm to NC_Tigah
Lolololol
Posted on 8/29/25 at 2:31 pm to the808bass
quote:Curious response, 808.
Lolololol
Posted on 8/29/25 at 3:01 pm to Narax
Agreed, but I did have a gay bird dog one time long ago that I had to keep in a separate box on the hunt cause he would try to cornhole the other dogs. So I'm not sure you can't have both.
That dog was the best pointer I ever had, named Mahamad Ali...
That dog was the best pointer I ever had, named Mahamad Ali...
Posted on 8/29/25 at 3:05 pm to NC_Tigah
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Kinsey 3 or 4's might not be concordant in sexual expression. K0 or K6's would be 100% concordant.
Dude, stop using the Kisney studies. he intentionally voided his own research by using suspect volunteers and prison populations
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Critics are justified in their objections that many of the most interesting and provocative statements in the [Kinsey 1948] book are not based on the data presented therein, and it is not made clear to the reader on what evidence the statements are based. Further, the conclusions drawn from data presented in the book are often stated by KPM [Kinsey, Pomeroy, and Martin] in much too bold and confident a manner. Taken cumulatively, these objections amount to saying that much of the writing in the book falls below the level of good scientific writing.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 8/29/25 at 3:13 pm to BarberitosDawg
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That dog was the best pointer I ever had
Obviously.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 3:18 pm to NC_Tigah
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A K4 who could be happy in solely gay relationships, would almost assuredly pursue only heterosexual relationships in Muslim countries where he'd be defenestrated for involvement in a gay entanglement. A K6, on the other hand, would either remain celibate, or risk the consequences of homosexual exposure.
Similarly, monozygotic Kinsey 3 or 4's might not be concordant in sexual expression. K0 or K6's would be 100% concordant.
You say this like it's fact.
You happened to accept the conclusions of some papers.
But why, why are you so sure you understand people and align them to a 70+ year old criteria.
Not just that, but then must link that to a pre birth event that permanently forces them to live in a certain way.
You want it to be that way.
You made declarations about twins, who turn out to be complete outliers.
By the way, if it was so important, how did it not even remotely phase you that your claims about it were wrong, and the population subset of 4 actually supported molestation as the cause, like it made zero difference to you.
Like I ask everyone, why is it important for you to treat this specific "theory" as fact.
Does it force you to think of people differently if they happen to get addicted to it after they are born vs are addicted to it before they are born?
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:08 pm to Bass Tiger
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Prior to the 1940's only around 1-3% of people truly felt they were born homosexual, now we have nearly 20% of young adults in the US who claim they identify as something other than heterosexual. This likely proves the current rise in homosexuality and gender confusion is a learned behavior.
Or a bunch of people were afraid to come out of the closet prior to the 1940s.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:15 pm to Narax
quote:Sexually abused children turn gay.
we know the overwhelming reason is sexual abuse as children
I hope you're a bot, because no human being should walk the earth this stupid.
Then again, it is the poliboard.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:22 pm to TX Tiger
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Sexually abused children turn gay.
Yea...
You know it's true, its apparent in the majority of the data for Gays and Lesbians.
Both are molested by males at very high rates.
Just because you can't admit it doesn't mean it's not extremely common.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:25 pm to Narax
quote:In your brilliant opinion, what percentage of sexually abused children turn gay. Furthermore, in your brilliant opinion, why do some turn gay and some not?
Sexually abused children turn gay.
Yea...
You know it's true, its apparent in the majority of the data for Gays and Lesbians.
Both are molested by males at very high rates.
Just because you can't admit it doesn't mean it's not extremely common.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:32 pm to TX Tiger
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In your brilliant opinion, what percentage of sexually abused children turn gay. Furthermore, in your brilliant opinion, why do some turn gay and some not?
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A new study led by researchers at Vanderbilt found that 83% of lesbian, gay, bisexual and queer (LGBQ) individuals reported going through adverse childhood experiences such as sexual and emotional abuse
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Of the nearly 3,000 LGBQ individuals included in the survey, 83% of LGBQ adults experienced at least one ACE compared to 64% of straight adults. More than half, 52%, of LGBQ adults reported three or more ACEs compared to 26% of straight adults. LGBQ people experienced higher rates of each of the eight defined types of ACEs, but researchers found that the disparities were largest for sexual abuse, household mental illness and emotional abuse.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11501300/
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In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0145213492900878
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From May 1989 through 1990, 1,001 adult homosexual and bisexual men attending sexually transmitted disease clinics were interviewed regarding potentially abusive sexual contacts during childhood and adolescence. Thirty-seven percent of participants reported they had been encouraged or forced to have sexual contact before age 19 with an older or more powerful partner; 94% occurred with men. Median age of the participant at first contact was 10; median age difference between partners was 11 years. Fifty-one percent involved use of force; 33% involved anal sex. Black and Hispanic men were more likely than white men to report such sexual contact. Using developmentally-based criteria to define sexual abuse, 93% of participants reporting sexual contact with an older or more powerful partner were classified as sexually abused. Our data suggest the risk of sexual abuse may be high among some male youth and increased attention should be devoted to prevention as well as early identification and treatment.
Now you and I both know that this doesn't matter to you.
No facts or data is going to change your mind.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:40 pm to Narax
Just be nice to your kids and they won't turn gay.
Glad that's settled.
Glad that's settled.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:43 pm to Narax
quote:You want the truth? Here it is.
The Truth: No One is Born Gay or Trans.
Some people are born gay. As a "Christian" you can't admit that because then you'd have to admit that your "God" is flawed.
And under NO condition are you going to allow yourself to admit that.
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