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re: The Truth: No One is Born Gay or Trans.

Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:45 pm to
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Some people are born gay.


Only insomuch as humans can be born with a mental defect.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7938 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:47 pm to
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Some people are born gay.

They aren't.

Even scientists on the pro gay side admit that now.

Why does it matter you you if they were born that way, or factually developed it later on?

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And under NO condition are you going to allow yourself to admit that.


Ohhhh...
I see...

Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:50 pm to
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Some people are born gay.



Only insomuch as humans can be born with a mental defect.
Humans can be born gay.
Humans can be born straight.
Humans can be born with green eyes.
Humans can be born with blond hair.
Humans can be born with brown skin.

If it makes you feel better about yourself to classify anyone different from you as having a "mental defect" then go for it.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 4:55 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:51 pm to
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Some people are born gay.


They aren't.

Even scientists on the pro gay side admit that now.
Are you up to date on all your boosters?

ETA: Trust the science. Where have I heard that before?
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 4:54 pm
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2053 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:54 pm to
Clinical trials show that defenestration is quite effective in treating LGBTQ disorder.

Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7938 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:54 pm to
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Humans can be born gay.
Humans can be born straight.

No
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Humans can be born with green eyes.
Humans can be born with blond hair.
Humans can be born with brown skin.

Yes

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If it makes you feel better about yourself to classify anyone different from you having a "mental defect" then go for it.

...
No it's literally the opposite.
I'm saying they have no more of a mental defect that anyone else.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:56 pm to
Why do you suppose some sexually abused children turn gay while others don't? What does "science" say about that?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299705 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:58 pm to
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Sexually abused children turn gay.


Many do. More than the gen pop.

Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7938 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:59 pm to
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Why do you suppose some sexually abused children turn gay while others don't? What does "science" say about that?


Would you believe it if I told you?

Answer this, why does it matter to you personally?

All you have been doing is screaming like an autist that it can't be true.

Why, why put yourself in such a state of denial where basic information forces you to deny reality.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:01 pm to
They also kill the male who is no longer the leader. I am not sure what point you are attempting to make. They do not engage in homosexual relationships. They engage in dominance like most animals which isn’t homosexuality no matter how hard you try
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:03 pm to
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Why do you suppose some sexually abused children turn gay while others don't? What does "science" say about that?



Would you believe it if I told you?
Yes, I believe everything science tells me to believe.

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Answer this, why does it matter to you personally?

IT doesn't. I was simply responding to the per usual ignorant comments I am entertained by from the poliboard.

Oh, and thank you for your contribution.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7938 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:08 pm to
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Oh, and thank you for your contribution.

You are welcome.

I hope you can take a look at those studies because it definitely exposes how bad a problem is hidden behind the "oh they were just born like that" advertising campaign.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:09 pm to
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Sexually abused children turn gay.



Many do.
Many? How many is many? And what exactly are we considering "gay?" If "gay" can be a learned behavior (i.e. sexually abused repeatedly as a child) can that person not some day meet up with and fall in love with (or simply have sexual relations with) a woman?

And if so, can we label them "gay?"
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:12 pm to
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I hope you can take a look at those studies because it definitely exposes how bad a problem
Oh, there's no question child abuse is a major problem.

Using that to demonize the gay population is hilariously absurd.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38662 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:30 pm to
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Some people are born gay.


There's literally no proof of this.

But I would also say that "gay," and even sexual preferences as a whole are much more complicated than a simple label and a simple line item of "gay" or "not gay," your dna. It's not that at all.

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As a "Christian" you can't admit that because then you'd have to admit that your "God" is flawed.


God never promised to create people perfect and aligned to his will, from birth. That's literally not the point.



However, let's avoid that and let's go after the REAL topic you're talking about here:

Let's assume, although it's not true, that some people are born with homosexual preferences, from birth.

Why do you also assume that the goal would be to follow those preferences?

When biology points to an outcome - that biological men and women create babies when they are together - so procreation of the species. The ultimate good and proliferation of the species.

And all outcome metrics for units of people and community - point to the monogamous biological men and women pairing creating a family - is also the scientifically proven best way to not only extend the species, but also do it ethically, safely and successfully.....



Why should people NOT follow that path? If science is all that matters - then we should all be interested in encouraging the most successful probability of improving society - and the results are clear.

We are all born with a lot of preferences. Some good, and yes some bad. There are lots of things we avoid as a species because it isn't good for the species.

So why is being homosexual - which is not good for the species - something that should be encouraged to be chased, and not avoided?
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7601 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:38 pm to
I don't know how human sexuality is influenced but it seems that there have always been homosexuals. They seem different in some ways that are good.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7938 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:44 pm to
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Using that to demonize the gay population is hilariously absurd.

So do you think admitting that no one is born gay is demonizing them?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299705 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:45 pm to
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Many? How many is many? And what exactly are we considering "gay?"


obfuscation....
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:47 pm to
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Some people are born gay.



There's literally no proof of this.
Of course not. There's too much money, power and control to be gained with religion.

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Let's assume, although it's not true, that some people are born with homosexual preferences, from birth.

Why do you also assume that the goal would be to follow those preferences?
The goal should be to love one another, not desperately search for reasons to be divided. Isn't that what your "God" would want you to do?

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And all outcome metrics for units of people and community - point to the monogamous biological men and women pairing creating a family
These people are gay, not sterile.

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is also the scientifically proven best way to not only extend the species, but also do it ethically, safely and successfully.....
Are you saying the gay population is unethical and dangerous?

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Why should people NOT follow that path?
Because we have free will...or is that just another lie that religion wants us to follow as well?

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If science is all that matters - then we should all be interested in encouraging the most successful probability of improving society
Haven't we proven that science isn't all that matters?

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So why is being homosexual - which is not good for the species - something that should be encouraged to be chased, and not avoided?
What part of it isn't good for the species?



Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:50 pm to
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Dude, stop using the Kisney studies. he intentionally voided his own research by using suspect volunteers and prison populations



Dude, I'm using the Kinsey SCALE . . . . . . NOT the Kinsey STUDIES. No one needs to draw on 75yr-old studies, whether you or I approve of Kinsey's methodology, or not.
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