re: The Truth: No One is Born Gay or Trans.

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You say this like it's fact.

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It is.

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why are you so sure you understand people and align them to a 70+ year old criteria,

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Because it is simply an organisational rating. Use any similar sexuality rating you'd like. There is NOTHING novel about the Kinsey scale.

Nah lots of people are born gay - I think OP has something to hide.

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The goal should be to love one another, not desperately search for reasons to be divided. Isn't that what your "God" would want you to do?

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Why is loving one another the goal? Where is the proof of love in our biology?

What is love in this context? From your point about assuming you follow your sexual preferences from birth with no exceptions - then for you love is following your sexual preferences to their conclusion regardless of their impact on the species correct?

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These people are gay, not sterile.

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Ok, but this does nothing to disprove that a family with a mother and father and children is the most successful organization unit to build a society on.

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Are you saying the gay population is unethical and dangerous?

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No, but I can clearly see why this went above your head.

It's pretty much a fact that if we focused society on structured monogamy, we'd probably nearly eradicate sexually transmitted diseases within a generation or two. Again, that's a win for society.

SHould we talk about the rate of STDs in non-traditional circles?

On the note of children - yes in terms of ethics keeping children with their birth mother and father in 95% of cases (thinking of crime, etc.) is the best thing for kids.

Putting a child into a home in which they were not born into, which you are forced to do to create a family unit for a homosexual couple, is not the best way.

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Because we have free will...or is that just another lie that religion wants us to follow as well?

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But what should society care about? What should be celebrated and encourage? What should we teach kids?

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Haven't we proven that science isn't all that matters?

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I don't know, have we? Your assumption is that if someone is born with some set of proclivities, that they should follow said proclivities.

So alcoholics should follow their proclivity to be addicted to alcohol correct?

That is free will? That is good for society? That is happiness?

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What part of it isn't good for the species?

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Homosexuality does not contribute to the proliferation of the species and it is an inefficient way to create successful and positive organization of families and humans. It also leads to greater rates of sexually transmitted diseases and a host of other mental instabilities.

I'd ask: Why is homosexuality good for the species?

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Because it is simply an organisational rating. Use any similar sexuality rating you'd like. There is NOTHING novel about the Kinsey scale.

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Based on self reported information.

Again, from Kinsey making the claim about people being exclusively gay when reporting their internal desired, it has morphed to your insisting that they were always going to be Kinsey type 6.

You then make a large leap that this is a state related to their biological makeup.

You then referenced a twin study group that turned out to be 4 people.

But again, there are men out there who are not Asian but have exclusive interest in Asian women, they would rate a Kinsey 6 on Asian Women.

Or white women who are only interested in black men. etc... For every shade of human sexual preference under the sun there are Kinsey 6 people who practice complete exclusivity.

Unless you are claiming those have a biological basis as well, you should consider that these are self reported states many years after puberty.

But you still haven't answered, why do you need a basis? And it's not "it's science" you couldn't have cared less when the Twins data set turned out to be 4 men.

Have you not met extremely effeminate men? Have you not seen them as boys?

There is 100% a genetic predisposition to the gay in some males.

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If it makes you feel better about yourself to classify anyone different from you as having a "mental defect" then go for it.

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You are wrong, and I don't believe you can deal with that.

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I read every link people put out.

I found the studies people mentioned.

I actually think there is a significantly better upside to the gay community just phrasing it as it's just a way of life.

If it's a way of life and others don't like that then well who cares, you don't approve of their life either.

If you were born that way and other's deny you, then they are "exhibiting violence on you", and you want to return violence on them, in left wing critical theory.

We are a free country, and people can do what they want.

But just like abortion, the left is trying to get an army of people who must vote for them no matter what they do.

My bird dog, Ali, was a rapist and queer from day one. Great hunting dog, just had to keep him separate from the rest. I could only hunt him with the bietches I had at the time. He had no interest in a dog in heat.

So there's that fact.