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Posted on 11/12/26 at 2:05 pm to lionward2014
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What a ton of people fail to realize is how many illegals have work permits and get paid legally and/or how many have ITIN numbers and pay taxes, at least in the Hispanic community.
And far more don't pay a dime in taxes and are impossible for the IRS to catch if they even bother to try because of the wasted time of assessing taxes that will never be paid anyway.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 2:13 pm to dgnx6
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I mean this isn't going to make the younger generation want to farm their families farm
You can’t make a living doing this. Agricultural cartels have ruined it (packers, Monsanto, cargill etc)
Every farmer has to have an off farm job unless you’re in an artificial monopoly like sugar cane (which is also a cartel)
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run their dads restaurant, hotel, gas station, nail salon, etc.
These are mostly immigrants fwiw. Some kids stay but the kids that are born here don’t speak the language usually and have no connection to the home country so they can’t human traffic employees and the kids that are born here don’t get free government money. Because these are low margin hard work non unique businesses (a nail salon is a nail salon) usually the plan is for the kids to go get educated and have professional jobs while the business shuts down when the parents age out
The main reason we see so much stagnation in America is because as a white boy it makes a lot more sense to get some bs college degree and somehow get your foot in the door past the hr lady at the giant corporation and as long as you show up you’ll rise through the ranks of dei hires until you have some boss man job rather than start your own business and have to pay out the nose for insurance and everything else
Posted on 11/12/26 at 2:19 pm to stout
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One day, I might not tell them that part and sell to them anyway.
I bet you won't, because likely they're only going to buy if you agree to an earn-out leveraged buyout, which they will ruin (based on what you just typed) and then leave you with nothing.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 11/12/26 at 2:27 pm to stout
This whole thread is the reason that thinking we were going to deport 20M illegals in one fell swoop was a pipe dream. We need to slow boil this issue and start with violent criminals and felons, gang members, etc. Clean up the red states where we have backing at the state level. Come up with a workers visa program for these industries.
You can always squeeze that later but we’ll never get the chance if every state turns blue because ICE is kicking in doors on TV.
You can always squeeze that later but we’ll never get the chance if every state turns blue because ICE is kicking in doors on TV.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 11/12/26 at 2:31 pm to Mo Jeaux
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but don’t you think a legit shop would be doing its due diligence before making offers?
Nope.
I used to get the same calls for my business.
What they don't tell you upfront is that their offer is a self-financed, earn-out leveraged buyout, contingent upon them paying you 20% upfront and the rest has to come from the future profits of the business.
Problem is, once they pay their 20%, you have no control over operations anymore. And they have a tendency to ruin a business (raising prices is one of the classic tactics, thus the original joke). So you likely end up with your 20% and a ruined business to show for it.
They figure that for most businesses the hard, sellable assets alone are worth 20%, so they cast a very wide net.
I eventually did sell to a PE firm, but it really was a "podunk" operation who didn't have the capital to sling around like one of the big ones who contacts every business that goes up for sale in certain industries. They bought it for the full purchase price.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 11/12/26 at 2:32 pm to SquatchDawg
Add in a workers training program for these skilled labor roles… so that there are actually citizens available to do the work before removing the workforce that is capable.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 2:36 pm to stout
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that unwillingness would shrink with better wages on those jobs.
Anybody who agrees with this better not claim we're really experiencing an "affordability crisis."
Because there's no way to raise wages without also raising prices.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 2:43 pm to SquatchDawg
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if every state turns blue because ICE is kicking in doors on TV.
as if all these jackasses depend on the CONFIRMED 12 million biden let in (could be way more that are not listed as official encounters). as if they did not have enough before.
loser mentality letting them hold you hostage. declare martial law and no more elections until all are shipped out. whatever it takes. wanna threaten us? ok GTFO and never come back. we will eliminate the threat. completely.
people do not wanna hear it but that is what it will take.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 11/12/26 at 4:14 pm to Fat Bastard
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people do not wanna hear it but that is what it will take.
Dems didn't sit around during the Biden years thinking about all the reasons they couldn't import 20 million people - all the laws and norms and resistance, none of it mattered frick all. They just did it, and they did it while swearing the border was closed.
Republicans don't have the backbone to make that kind of effort.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 4:23 pm to David_DJS
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Republicans don't have the backbone to make that kind of effort.
right.
G ang
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P ussies
if the shite GOP we had in congress would ever go scorched earth and stick together like dems we would be in a way better spot.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 4:23 pm to Fat Bastard
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declare martial law and no more elections until all are shipped out.
You’re not a serious person
Posted on 11/12/26 at 4:30 pm to stout
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Too many industries are addicted to cheap foreign labor. Everything from Tech and its H-1 B slaves, to manufacturing, construction, farming, etc
The problem is more like immigrant labor or no workers. It's been a growing major issue for over 2 decades.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 4:37 pm to lionward2014
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What a ton of people fail to realize is how many illegals have work permits and get paid legally and/or how many have ITIN numbers and pay taxes, at least in the Hispanic community.
I have a buddy who works for a home builder who swore to me they only hire people here legally, I said I'm sure your company only hires people with work permits but are technically illegal. It didn't click until crews started getting picked up in the last 1.5 years that work permit=/=legal status.
Yep, they lie to get Asylum which if the lie works, they get a work permit here in the USA. They also get access to government freebies. Rent assistance, food stamps, cell phones, etc.
We, the taxpayers, are basically paying the difference in what the contractors are not paying an actual citizen to do the work, just so they can have cheap slave labor.. 8,000 dollars plus a year in government benefits just for 1 of these people on Asylum and there's hundreds of thousands of them.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 11/12/26 at 4:40 pm to Cosmo
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Construction labor is already stupid expensive even with illegals.
1000%
Posted on 11/12/26 at 4:58 pm to Big4SALTbro
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This is right, our problem isn’t true lack of labor it’s these groups using cheap foreign labor rather it’s illegals or H1Bs.
Same shite that MGT flipped on. It’s pathetic and all of these people are traitors and should face stiff jail time.
H1B is a huge thing that is taking really good paying jobs from American born Citizen workers.
I work from home for a fortune 500 corporation, but had to go to the office today for a big meeting with our development and infrastructure teams. I walk into this meeting room with close to 50 people in there and there is literally 1 other white guy and a hispanic guy in there, the rest were of older foreign born Asian descent (mostly Dot Indians)...They had a conference call up for people who couldn't attend in person (about another 30 people from other offices), and there was only 1 other person on that call that wasn't a Dot Indian that I could confirm was actually born here and didn't speak with a thick foreign accent.
I mean literally our entire IT department, for the most part, are foreign born people, and they try to say companies aren't abusing H1B Visas or the Visas there wives use to get employment here at good paying jobs?
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 5:04 pm
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