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re: The store that sold the killer the AR-15 that killed 17 kids has closed.

Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:08 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:08 pm to
Toddy

a few years ago i represented a kid charged with a violent crime

he had no prior and was like 18-20 so i thought he deserved a shot at a normal life. i did some amazing lawyering and the kid got a year in jail. sadly, less than a month after he got out, he was involved in a drug deal gone bad and somebody ended up shot (they later died)

do you think i should feel guilty for that person who died?

i've honestly never even thought about the possibility of guilt until this thread

think about your answer and what it implies for other rights before you respond
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99001 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:12 pm to
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do you think i should feel guilty for that person who died?


As his defense attorney, you should only feel guilt if you didn’t do everything allowed by the law to provide your client with the best defense possible.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:12 pm to
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I cannot imagine the guilt they must feel knowing this will follow them the rest of their lives.



As a self-hating gay white liberal "man" you will never be able to understand this but sane people only feel guilt when they have done something wrong
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123910 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:14 pm to
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I cannot imagine the guilt they must feel knowing this will follow them the rest of their lives.
How do you think the fertilizer store owners felt after the Oklahoma Bombing?

How did you feel after supporting the side committing the Ruby Ridge and Branch Davidian atrocities?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108360 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:16 pm to
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I respect that. Edited out his name from the title line.



Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:17 pm to
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If you own a gun store in America in 2018, you have to assume your guns are being used by criminals to murder innocent people.


Go shite up a rope.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:18 pm to
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Not really. These people are going to spend the rest of their lives knowing they sold an assault rifle that snuffed out 17 young lives. That must be a tremendous burden to bear.


Playing devils advocate here, now what would have happened if the store keep would have refused to sell this man a product from his shop even though the man was qualified to purchase the item and no reasonable argument prohibited the sale?

Lawsuit that's what...


In hindsight it was the smart move to shut the shop down and liquidate the merchandise. Especially seeing how the they would have been vilified by the press and the unwashed progfilth.

This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 5:20 pm
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20416 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:19 pm to
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I cannot imagine the guilt they must feel knowing this will follow them the rest of their lives.

Really a-hole? they followed legal protocol to sell a firearm and broke no laws.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42407 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:19 pm to
I put more blame on the FBI who had the information about this kid and did nothing with it.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99001 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:26 pm to
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I put more blame on the FBI who had the information about this kid and did nothing with it.



They were busy protecting Toddy’s heroes.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
27582 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:27 pm to


you know.. because 1 million people die everyday in America from gun violence. By that rate, we will all be dead by the end of the year. Thank you America for killing me
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:28 pm to
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Well, cars aren't sold for the purpose of killing things so I don't understand the comparison


I didn't buy any of my guns for the purpose of killing things. I don't even hunt

And. If all goes well. My guns will never be used to kill anything

But if they ever are, it will be the dead thing's fault.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98778 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:29 pm to
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I really feel for them


bullshite
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:35 pm to
Toddy is so damned happy this shooting happened i almost have to expect he threw a party
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:37 pm to
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m the rest of their lives.

I really feel for them


No you don't, you lying sack of shite.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:41 pm to
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I cannot imagine the guilt they must feel knowing this will follow them the rest of their lives.



Guilt for what? They did not shoot the 17 victims and the gun was sold legally. If anyone should feel guilty it's whoever dropped the ball at the FBI, because they actually could have made a difference.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:44 pm to
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do you think i should feel guilty for that person who died?


Of course not. I'm not sure how you're trying to compare this to a ban on assault weapons though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422466 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:46 pm to
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Of course not. I'm not sure how you're trying to compare this to a ban on assault weapons though.


i didn't bring up banning assault weapons. wtf

due to my job, a man was allowed to kill another person

due to the job of the gun shop, a man was allowed to kill another person

both involve constitutional rights. you want to limit one. why not the other?
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77321 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:53 pm to
You killed 17 kids...
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