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re: The 'Shopping Cart Theory' and moral character
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:50 am to skidry
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:50 am to skidry
quote:there's probably a lot of truth to this. people will never agree on what's right for society. the only way it would ever work is if everyone deferred to a transcendent moral anchor. america worked that way up until the cultural revolution of the 60's. the axiology of the country switched from god centered/country/others to self centered. since everyone has their own idea about how society should be run (all too evident recently), self centered axiology is destroying the country from within
Without individual morality, free society simply does not work
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:50 am to StringedInstruments
quote:
Altruism doesn't really exist
splain
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:51 am to tigerpawl
I always return the cart to the return thing.
I always hold doors for people
I always make sure the woman finishes first.
I always hold doors for people
I always make sure the woman finishes first.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:53 am to bfniii
quote:
everyone deferred to a transcendent moral anchor.
We are absolutely lost without God.
Some can still be good. And we can survive in the short term.
But a society without traditional Christian values based on a faith and belief in the universal truth of God is not sustainable.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:53 am to FooManChoo
quote:
This theory is nothing more than arbitrariness. Morality without God is merely personal opinion that is neither better nor worse than any other’s opinion.
Easy, killer. That’s a lazy review.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:56 am to tigerpawl
I typically return the cart, however, when I have been with little kids that require constant supervision, that takes priority over being polite and considerate with the cart
this is not an issue anymore, but when my autistic daughter was little, I rarely or never returned the cart
this is not an issue anymore, but when my autistic daughter was little, I rarely or never returned the cart
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:56 am to tigerpawl
My dad will bring the handicap carts into the store so the seat isn't hot and puts it in the charger. He doesn't use them. Just brings them in.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:00 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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frick no I just pop the front two wheels onto the curbing so it doesn’t roll away.
So, that's a vote in favor of this theory having legs.
I kid, I kid.
Sort of.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 10:33 am to tigerpawl
quote:
I think the theory is based on if you have the time and means to do it, but just elect not to
That was the point I was trying to make and if that's the criteria then I agree, it likely indicates an individual of low moral character and or very self-centered.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:41 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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I thought those were just manners
Yep formally known as “common” courtesy
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:42 pm to bfniii
quote:
splain
There's no such thing as a fully selfless act. Everything you do stems first from selfishness. Being selfish is not necessarily not a bad thing. It's just reality about human nature.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:43 pm to Turbeauxdog
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It’s obviously a sign of character.
So of all the things that go into building one's character, a shopping cart is the final test?
Some of you have never worked in a grocery store before, and it shows.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:49 pm to BugAC
And to expound upon that, I return carts to the corral 10/10 times. Unless
1) My kids are with me. I'm not leaving them in a hot arse truck while i go search out a corral, if not located relatively close.
2) For stores that don't have a corral, and if i parked far away, i'm about 75/25 if i'm going to go all the way back and return it.
3) I used to work at a grocery store in high school. We used to fight each other to go get the carts, so we could go outside, and not be stuck inside stocking shelves all day.
1) My kids are with me. I'm not leaving them in a hot arse truck while i go search out a corral, if not located relatively close.
2) For stores that don't have a corral, and if i parked far away, i'm about 75/25 if i'm going to go all the way back and return it.
3) I used to work at a grocery store in high school. We used to fight each other to go get the carts, so we could go outside, and not be stuck inside stocking shelves all day.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:50 pm to tigerpawl
Sometimes I return the shopping cart and sometimes not. It all depends on where I'm parked. My choice is determined by the least amount of work required by both me and the grocery store employee.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:54 pm to Breesus
quote:
I always return the cart to the return thing.
See, if I'm parked close to the store and the return thing is in the middle of the parking lot I don't return the cart to the return thing. That's just more work for me and the employee. Both of us are unnecessarily back tracking.
I do however return the cart to the return thing if I'm park further away from the store than the return thing.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:58 pm to StringedInstruments
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There's no such thing as a fully selfless act.
Irrelevant and silly.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:14 pm to StringedInstruments
quote:in a worldly sense, i tend to agree. however, if a person truly is transformed into the likeness of christ, then worshiping God and honoring God are selfless as are any godly/biblical actions that follow (stewardship, discipleship, evangelism, prayer, service, etc). in fact, a person can't truly be a follower of christ and be "selfish" when they are acting in a christ like manner (Colossians 3:3-5). in a worldly sense, becoming a follower of christ is counterintuitive because it is not self serving. (Romans 6:6, John 14:16-18, Romans 7:15-23)
There's no such thing as a fully selfless act. Everything you do stems first from selfishness. Being selfish is not necessarily not a bad thing. It's just reality about human nature.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:18 pm to bfniii
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becoming a follower of christ is counterintuitive because it is not self serving
It's impossible to separate the promise of everlasting life (in a heavenly paradise) from being a follower of Christ.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:24 pm to tigerpawl
Now do political choices and moral character.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:31 pm to TigerDeBaiter
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I always return mine. And stare down others to shame them if I see them leaving it.
Same here, I'm legit diagnosed OCD so I can honestly say that I have NEVER not returned a cart. Laziness is also my #1 pet peeve and will get under my skin faster than anything else will.
If I see someone abandoning a cart, especially an overweight and otherwise physically able adult, I will lock on to them with the best 'go to hell' stare I can muster and often mouth something along the lines of "lazy arse" while slowly shaking my head side to side; I'll maybe even throw in an eye roll if their offense is particularly vulgar, like leaving it between cars or right next to their own car in the parking space.
I like to think that these people know they're being judged by me and feel a sense of guilt when they notice me, and it changes their lives. In all reality, they're more like the people that don't give a frick and probably get mad at ME for glaring at them like I did something wrong.
Long story short, frick those people.
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