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re: The Shah of Iran 1976 interview with 60 minutes's Mike Wallace
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:06 am to Seldom Seen
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:06 am to Seldom Seen
This is what Iranian women looked like in the 70's... My they have they fallen since the Islamic Regime... That country fell back 500 years...
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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Haven't you posted about him before implying a negative connotation for the US (via the Cee Eye Ay)?
If I did, I don't remember. I seriously doubt it because I just learned the most about the Shah of Iran from that video I just watched. Iran is a subject that I'm ignorant.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:07 am to The Torch
True, I remember many Iranian students at Tech. They were cool though, but kept to themselves as you could imagine.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:12 am to The Torch
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I remember in the 80's all of a sudden you had a bunch of Iranians running around Ruston, apparently they liked the engineering department at La Tech.
I had an Iranian professor for heat transfer and heat transfer lab. He like to yell a lot and he intimidated a lot of students and he yelled at me a lot. But I wasn't deterred. I went to is office several times to ask questions about problems and to understand. He would start of yelling but when he saw that I was beginning to understand the concepts he was teaching his tone changed and became a funny guy. I made As in is classes. I just chalked his personality up to cultural differences.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:13 am to GumboPot
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If I did, I don't remember. I seriously doubt it because I just learned the most about the Shah of Iran from that video I just watched. Iran is a subject that I'm ignorant.
the "Deep State" installing the Shah is seen as the major inflection point that resulted in the destabilization and radicalization of the ME.
It's probably the most-referenced example of "the Deep State"
Thread on page one about it
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's probably the most-referenced example of "the Deep State"
Hmmmm. IMO the most-referenced example of the "Deep State" is permanent Washington, aka the administrative state.
But I do accept that the CIA is part of the Deep State and probably the most subversive part.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:21 am to TechBullDawg
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Facilitating his removal was a huge mistake.
Was it? There wouldn't be enough conflict in the ME if he wasn't replaced. I think there was no mistake and the regime change went exactly how the USA wanted it to go.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:22 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
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Can we name a single move we have made in the ME over the last 70 plus years that didn’t turn out be a mistake?
How many does it take to convince people they aren't "mistakes?"
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:40 am to SlowFlowPro
We didn’t remove the sha.
Carters failure in this was they let it happen believing Kohemeini would be a spiritual ghandi like figure that would install democracy.
It was more of a, this will be better for them so don’t stop it rather than actually removing the sha.
And the majority of the Iranian people wanted this. They were jubilant when the sha left.
Another important note is women were heavily involved in the revolution. They would carry their babies as human shields during the protests.
Carters failure in this was they let it happen believing Kohemeini would be a spiritual ghandi like figure that would install democracy.
It was more of a, this will be better for them so don’t stop it rather than actually removing the sha.
And the majority of the Iranian people wanted this. They were jubilant when the sha left.
Another important note is women were heavily involved in the revolution. They would carry their babies as human shields during the protests.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 8:48 am
Posted on 6/18/25 at 8:53 am to Seldom Seen
We seem to be hearing lots of people ranting about how brutal he was, blah blah blah.
He was a friend to America. He even made yearly deer hunting trips, during the winter.
These women lived during his leadership in the 1970s. Compare these pics to how Iranian women live now, following the Islamic Revolution....I believe they'd jump at the chance to live their lives as these women once could.....
Those old bastards in power are pure evil- and the world will be a better place without them in it. No one would be "safer" if those crazies develop nuclear weapons. Thinking we would be is an absurd notion. And that can be prevented WITHOUT putting "boots on the ground."
They played Barack Obama like a fiddle. Anyone could see what they were doing behind the scenes. Except him, apparently....Only a total moron puts any trust in Iran.
He was a friend to America. He even made yearly deer hunting trips, during the winter.
These women lived during his leadership in the 1970s. Compare these pics to how Iranian women live now, following the Islamic Revolution....I believe they'd jump at the chance to live their lives as these women once could.....
Those old bastards in power are pure evil- and the world will be a better place without them in it. No one would be "safer" if those crazies develop nuclear weapons. Thinking we would be is an absurd notion. And that can be prevented WITHOUT putting "boots on the ground."
They played Barack Obama like a fiddle. Anyone could see what they were doing behind the scenes. Except him, apparently....Only a total moron puts any trust in Iran.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
Wasn't it at the behest of the Brits?
And it's hard to predict what Iran would like now if "we" didn't put him power? It "worked" for 25yrs.
Would the mullahs still have facilitated a revolt at some point?
What would have Khomeini's relationship with whatever presumably socialist government was in power at the time?
Would the Iran-Iraq war have happened?
Would the Iranian government been an ally of Russia?
And it's hard to predict what Iran would like now if "we" didn't put him power? It "worked" for 25yrs.
Would the mullahs still have facilitated a revolt at some point?
What would have Khomeini's relationship with whatever presumably socialist government was in power at the time?
Would the Iran-Iraq war have happened?
Would the Iranian government been an ally of Russia?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:49 am to Seldom Seen
Dude was spot on.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:50 am to oleheat
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We seem to be hearing lots of people ranting about how brutal he was, blah blah blah.
Blah, blah, blah, so much that he caused a theocratic revolution in his country. 
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:21 am to oleheat
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We seem to be hearing lots of people ranting about how brutal he was, blah blah blah.
In hindsight he should have been harsher. Especially to the mullahs. A few "religious scholars" heads in a ditch would have fixed all this.
Countries in the middle east are not western and dont really accept democracy. They need a strong ruler (but not a sadistic one). Their rulers have to hold together numerous tribes who really want to be independent.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:23 am to Seldom Seen
My uncle was in charge of drilling the first oil well off the coast of Iran. He ate with the Shaw. Not bad for a guy from Leesville.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:25 am to Seldom Seen
If he managed the economy better, Iran would still have a monarchy. Dude threw the most expensive party in history.
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