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re: The Senate worked late tonight to get in a vote that will repeal the ACA.

Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22045 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:48 pm to
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Repeal is cause for celebration.


Why is revoking access to health insurance for >20M Americans a cause for celebration, in your mind?

That's sick.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73323 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:52 pm to
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Repeal without replace (there is no replacement yet) = >20M people losing access to health insurance.


Nope. They are free to obtain health insurance.

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We have the highest rates of gun violence among OECD countries.


We have the highest rate of Whoppers eaten as well.

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Voter ID laws disproportionately affect minorities - sometimes so nakedly that the legislators are on the record wanting just that (hi, North Carolina).


So only whites are capable enough to obtain identification? How racist of you.

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Which part, specifically, in your mind led us into a war of choice in Iraq?


As I've stated, three times now, it was collective stupidity. That's a separate discussion.

Feel free to address any of Clinton's other mistakes I've pointed to.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73323 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:53 pm to
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revoking access


That's not happening.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69440 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:56 pm to
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BamaAtl
You actively destroy and distort meanings of words.

Liberals distort language to get their way.

How Democrats Win Debates by Corrupting English

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Take "access," formerly meaning having the ability to approach, enter or use. In today's liberal parlance, when the state doesn't give you something for free, it's taking something from you. It's denying you access.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22045 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:02 pm to
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That's not happening.


20M people have health insurance due to the ACA. When the ACA is repealed without a replacement, they will no longer have health insurance once their policy expires.

That's happening.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22045 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:02 pm to
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You actively destroy and distort meanings of words.

Liberals distort language to get their way.


"Death Panels"

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141104 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:04 pm to
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Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22045 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:05 pm to
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They are free to obtain health insurance.


Unaffordable health insurance. If they don't have a pre-existing condition, haven't reached a lifetime cap, or don't have it rescinded after the fact.

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We have the highest rate of Whoppers eaten as well.



Good for you, to admit you were wrong.

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So only whites are capable enough to obtain identification?


North Carolina specifically targeted voting practices that would impact more minorities than whites. Or are you going to dispute their own words?

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Feel free to address any of Clinton's other mistakes I've pointed to.


We're not talking about those, we're talking about your contention that the Iraq war was Clinton's fault. Go on.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69440 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:05 pm to
Shut up!
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141104 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:06 pm to
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"Death Panels"



"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor"

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57455 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:10 pm to
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Why is revoking access to health insurance for >20M Americans a cause for celebration, in your mind?
Sounds like someone slept in the hyperbolic chamber last night.

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That's sick.
its no more perverse than making 80 million people overpay for something they don't need and denying them their hopes and dreams as a result. Of course, the difference here is that is actually happening.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 3:12 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73323 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:11 pm to
That doesn't mean their access to health insurance is being revoked. No one has said they can't get health insurance when theirs expires.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40726 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:12 pm to
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Donald J. Trump ?@realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago

Congrats to the Senate for taking the first step to #RepealObamacare- now it's onto the House! – at Trump Tower


Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73323 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:15 pm to
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Unaffordable


Work more or spend less.

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Good for you, to admit you were wrong.


Who eats more Whoppers than us?

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Or are you going to dispute their own words?


I only dispute your manipulation of it.

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We're not talking about those


Yes we are. Address them. I'll wait.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57455 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:15 pm to
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20M people have health insurance due to the ACA. When the ACA is repealed without a replacement, they will no longer have health insurance once their policy expires.
Nope. Obamacare only had ~11.5 million sign ups in 2016. And of those a majority failed to finish the year by making paying their premiums for the entire year. Hell, a sizeable portion never made the first premium payment. Good grief.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22045 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:47 pm to
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Work more or spend less.


The best advice you can give an oncology patient, or someone with a chronic condition, who hits the lifetime cap...

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I only dispute your manipulation of it.


You either haven't read their words or want to pretend that you don't understand them. Which is it?

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Yes we are.


That Clinton is responsible for the Iraq war? Walk that one back and we can talk.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22045 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:47 pm to
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HailHailtoMichigan!


Drink more milk!
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22045 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:48 pm to
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Obamacare only had ~11.5 million sign ups in 2016.


You're neglecting those who will lose access to Medicaid when the expansion is eliminated. I'm sure it's useful for you, but it's not reality.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22045 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:49 pm to
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its no more perverse than making 80 million people overpay for something


Prices have increased at a slower pace than they would have without the ACA. If you're talking about those on the individual market without subsidies, that's approximately 3% of the population. Not 80M.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111736 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:56 pm to
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Prices have increased at a slower pace than they would have without the ACA.


Lol
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