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re: The Senate worked late tonight to get in a vote that will repeal the ACA.

Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:55 am to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22040 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:55 am to
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Most of the redirects to Medicaid were already eligible


I'm not sure if you're purposefully lying, or just that ignorant. Remove the expansion parts of the law that made these people eligible for Medicaid, and they will not be eligible for Medicaid.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73311 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:17 am to
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Bush inherited a surplus.


Wrong.

He inherited a $5.629 trillion debt.
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incorrect view that Obama had a choice to never spend a dime in Iraq/Afghanistan


Link to that.

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Given that he didn't, it's beyond foolish to claim that the spending for those wars is a blemish on his administration.


Link to that.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22040 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:27 am to
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Wrong.


And an annual budget in surplus. He chose to add to the debt by enacting unpaid tax cuts and Medicare Part D (also not paid for).

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Link to that.


LINK
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73311 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:30 am to
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And an annual budget in surplus.


So a debt. Glad we agree.

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22040 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:32 am to
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So a debt


In FY 2001 OMB reported a budget surplus of $128B, with a projected 10-year surplus of $5.6T

When Bush left office, we had almost $10T in debt.

So yes, we agree - Bush gave us a lot of debt through policies he chose and did not have forced upon him.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73518 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:33 am to
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projected


Odrama "projected" he would halve the debt in his first four years, how did that work out for you Cubby?
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 8:34 am
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22040 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:33 am to
I know, math has a liberal bias.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73311 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:34 am to
So, still a debt.

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projected




Meaningless. Clinton's policies were terrible for our economy and not sustainable.

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When Bush left office, we had almost $10T in debt.


Obama will leave office with nearly $20 trillion in debt.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22040 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:35 am to
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Odrama "projected" he would halve the debt in his first four years, how did that work out for you


He did significantly reduce the annual deficit. The problem here is you're conflating debt and deficit - because you're being intentionally misleading, or do you really not know the difference?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22040 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:37 am to
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Clinton's policies were terrible for our economy and not sustainable.


The OMB disagreed with you in 2001.

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Obama will leave office with nearly $20 trillion in debt.


Much of it forced on him by Bush policies, which he had no way of preventing. It always circles back to our original discussion, where you refuse to admit that Obama had some debt foisted on him by Bush's policies.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73311 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:40 am to
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The OMB disagreed with you in 2001.


Good for them. History agrees with me now.

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Much of it forced on him by Bush policies, which he had no way of preventing.


Sure, and it had been compounded prior to then.

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It always circles back to our original discussion, where you refuse to admit that Obama had some debt foisted on him by Bush's policies.


Wrong. Once again, collective stupidity.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 9:05 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73518 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:42 am to
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do you really not know the difference?
Yes you smug frick I do.

Yep I membered it wrong. Odrama meant the deficit.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40720 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:43 am to
Obamacare's done. It's over.
Posted by Morgus
The Old City Icehouse
Member since May 2004
9127 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:47 am to
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Progs are losing their minds. I saw a Facebook post claiming that Mitch McConnell just personally voted to kill him.



It's amazing how quickly legislation can become the only thing that separates us from complete catastrophe. The absence of something that didn't exist just a few years ago now equals murder.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57455 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:23 am to
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I'm not sure if you're purposefully lying, or just that ignorant. Remove the expansion parts of the law that made these people eligible for Medicaid, and they will not be eligible for Medicaid.
go look at the demo data dumbass. Most of those that ended up on Medicaid were eligible with or without expansion.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57455 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:30 am to
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In FY 2001 OMB reported a budget surplus of $128B, with a projected 10-year surplus of $5.6T
Did the economic climate projections behind that hold up? OMB simply projected the dot-com bubble out for the next 10 years which was never going to happen. It's was a poor basis, clearly.

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When Bush left office, we had almost $10T in debt.
Debt != deficit/surplus. And if bother to look most of the debt was picked up post 2007.
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