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re: The republican party should embrace gay marriage.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:20 pm to Chaka
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:20 pm to Chaka
Eh, my opinion hasn't changed since that watershed 2015 ruling. As long as America has devolved into such abject depravity as legally and morally equating two perverted dudes as the equivalent of a marriage... well, frankly I just have no longer have any real interest in the preservation of the nation. Politics, economics, national security. I just don't give a damn, when I'm looking at this current evil freak-show of a country. Homo-marriage was like the symbolic final nail in the coffin for me.
Republicans embrace it? Heck, it was Mitt Romney when he was governor of Massachusetts basically who allowed it to slide through in his state in the first place, getting the ball rolling. The prime reason I left my vote blank on the presidential ballot that he ran.
Republicans embrace it? Heck, it was Mitt Romney when he was governor of Massachusetts basically who allowed it to slide through in his state in the first place, getting the ball rolling. The prime reason I left my vote blank on the presidential ballot that he ran.
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
We just want.....
Queer bait
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:24 pm to Flats
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Does it have bearing on the insurance his employer offers? Inheritance laws? Marriage is all intertwined in our legal system, which is one of the reasons it's regulated. Now maybe it shouldn't be intertwined, but it is.
Sounds like an issue for the states to figure out. Again, what does that have on you as an individual? Sounds to me having the 12 wives is that guy's problem, not yours. You're worried about hypotheticals that have nothing to do with you. So, why do you need mommy and daddy government to step in?
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Same sex marriage was already handled at a state level too; SCOTUS says that state laws don't matter when they say they don't matrer. What age is a child? 17? 16?
Pretty sure that's been established and accepted that you're an adult at 18. Why do we need MOAR laws about it, we already have them on the books? Where did SCOTUS say state laws didn't matter or is that more conjecture?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:29 pm to Pechon
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Why do we need MOAR laws about it, we already have them on the books?
We need fewer laws and lawyers, no more.
Progressives wanting more cancel culture laws, while posing as conservatives.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Progressives wanting more cancel culture laws, while posing as conservatives.
Exactly, they're more for government that suits their karenism rather than actual limited government.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:34 pm to jnethe1
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Nope, I will not abandon my morals to appease anyone.
No fault divorce is just as immoral as gay marriage. Do you abandon your morals when you support Trump?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:34 pm to Pechon
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Sounds like an issue for the states to figure out.
That's what marriage used to be. SCOTUS changed that.
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You're worried about hypotheticals that have nothing to do with you.
I'm not worried about it at all, I'm just explaining to you that there are ramifications outside of the guy and his 12 wives, and state (or federal) law will have to be changed.
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Pretty sure that's been established and accepted
So was marriage.
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you're an adult at 18
That could change tomorrow if 5 people say it should change. And if you're an adult, why can't you buy a beer?
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Where did SCOTUS say state laws didn't matter or is that more conjecture?
You cannot be this stupid, can you?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:37 pm to Pechon
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rather than actual limited government
Social conservative is a misnomer. Restricting freedom sounds more progressive to me.
Progressives and social cons are both neo puritans. Their desire is to mold society, not promote liberty
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:37 pm to Flats
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I'm not worried about it at all, I'm just explaining to you that there are ramifications outside of the guy and his 12 wives, and state (or federal) law will have to be changed.
Why bring it up? Why are you worried about that guy, it's his problem not yours. Why do you need government to cater to his problem when it has nothing to do with you?
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That could change tomorrow if 5 people say it should change.
Hyperbole and hypothetical
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And if you're an adult, why can't you buy a beer?
Good question, I think the drinking laws should be you can be 18 to buy a beer. If you can enlist, you can buy a beer.
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You cannot be this stupid, can you?
You're making the claim, I'm simply asking for a source. Cite it.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:38 pm to Pechon
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Exactly, they're more for government that suits their karenism rather than actual limited government.
Coming from pretend conservatives who wipe their arse with the concept of federalism. Yay, one-size-fits-all laws decided on by 5 people for the other 330,000,000 to abide by.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:38 pm to Leotiger725
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Recognized "Civil Unions" should have been the end of it
This^^^
Have a special partnership that is completely a creature of the secular state.
Leave traditional marriage as an exclusive to the church.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:39 pm to Flats
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Coming from pretend conservatives
Small govt is real conservatism.
Social cons are no better than progressives.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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That's the issue. It has no affect on your morality.
How do you figure that?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:41 pm to Chaka
You dont have to embrace gay marriage. Just embrace personal liberty.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:41 pm to Esquire
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No fault divorce is just as immoral as gay marriage. Do you abandon your morals when you support Trump?
I hate when people try to use this. So dumb.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:43 pm to Chaka
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The party of small government should really stop caring about what consenting adults do between themselves.
We've already been 'round and 'round about that. No one I know wastes any time whatsoever 'caring about what consenting adults do between themselves.'
However, I don't want to see you - or straight couples - acting out their 'love' in public. Not the place.
If you are saying I must accept your version of marriage...no, it won't happen. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Period.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:43 pm to Flats
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Coming from pretend conservatives who wipe their arse with the concept of federalism. Yay, one-size-fits-all laws decided on by 5 people for the other 330,000,000 to abide by.
The only pretend conservatives here are you yahoos coming up with mental gymnastics of hyperbolic scenarios to make yourself feel better. Again, you want government that suits you not an actual limited government.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:43 pm to jnethe1
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How do you figure that?
Basic understanding of reality.
Two dudes in a contract with each other has no effect on my individual moral standing. None whatsoever. They made a choice, not I.
That's 100% on them. It's not my job to protect their sense of morality.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:44 pm to jnethe1
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I hate when people try to use this. So dumb.
Because it exposes your hypocrisy
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:44 pm to Robin Masters
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Just embrace personal liberty.
Fact
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