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re: The republican party should embrace gay marriage.

Posted on 11/16/22 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28172 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 5:50 pm to
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This can easily be fixed by those states living in the 1920s repealing their archaic laws.


If they have 70% on their side that should be easy.


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the no laws are needed period, to do with marriage.

Including age? Or can we still be archaic there?
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 5:52 pm
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15325 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 5:51 pm to
Your gayness shines through in this post. Kiss your husband.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65858 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 5:53 pm to
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gay marriage


No such thing.

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The party of small government should really stop caring about what consenting adults do between themselves.


No one cares what people are doing between themselves.

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Respect for Marriage Act


It's hilarious that you mentioned this and "small government" in the same message.
Posted by Cortez12
Member since Dec 2021
1845 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 5:59 pm to
Care to explain? I’m not trying to be one, I genuinely don’t understand what you are saying.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 6:03 pm to
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Including age? Or can we still be archaic there?


Archaic folks married at 13 or so.

I don't think governments would recognize a meaningful, enforceable contract for much at that age, these days.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28172 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 6:14 pm to
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I don't think governments would recognize a meaningful, enforceable contract for much at that age, these days.


Why not?

Are you saying we still need laws putting some boundaries around marriage so people know what the government will or won't recognize?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 6:26 pm to
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I don't think governments would recognize a meaningful, enforceable contract for much at that age, these days.


Why not?



Because currently..

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I don't think governments would recognize a meaningful, enforceable contract for much at that age, these days.


Has nothing to do with marriage. The government is not privy to recognizing binding contracts between minors, period.

This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 6:33 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55751 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 6:31 pm to
I said years ago it’s not enough to allow the LGBTQ….XYZ+=^¥!? to their lives without harassment, as the OP says, you must embrace and promote their relationships….they must have affirmation.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28172 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 6:36 pm to
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Has nothing to do with marriage. The government is not privy to recognizing binding contracts between minors, period.


You're wrong, because there are states where you can get married as young as 16 without parental permission. If they wouldn't recognize another type of legal contract but WOULD recognize a marriage then it sounds like it has a lot to do with marriage.


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Are you saying we still need laws putting some boundaries around marriage so people know what the government will or won't recognize?


It sounds like your answer is yes, you just don't want to actually type the letters.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63075 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 6:50 pm to
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But what makes me just short of calling myself a republican is their opposition to gay marriage


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:03 pm to
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You're wrong, because there are states where you can get married as young as 16 without parental permission.


I think Fla and Ga allow for underage without parental consent if the woman is pregnant.

Every other state requires parental consent and all that allow 16 year olds to marry require consent if the woman isn't pregnant.

I don't think you have to worry about 16 year old gay dudes getting pregnant.


Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18630 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:05 pm to
This. Gay marriage is already accepted and legal.

This bill is a pointless virtue signal. May as well waste time coming up with a virtue signal bill that makes murder illegal and when some Democrats refuse to waste time humoring shite that is already illegal, we can ask why Democrats support murder and think it should be legal.


They could be trying to come up with legit immigration reform or something...instead of wasting time with virtue signal bills.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55573 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:06 pm to
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frick off groomer

He’s not advocating grooming children. He is advocating for small government. You seem to like small government until you want to oppress someone.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55573 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:08 pm to
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This. Gay marriage is already accepted and legal.

This bill is a pointless virtue signal.

Wrong! Hank explained it above. Using your logic, a year ago one could say that abortion is already legal, so there is no need for a law legalizing it. See your error now?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:09 pm to
Damn so what you’re saying is that basically gay marriage is like dead unborn babies?

I kid. Whatevs. Y’all have at it.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 7:11 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:10 pm to
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, I genuinely don’t understand what you are saying.



Overly dramatic false accusations against people (homophobic) because you dont; know the meaning of the word. Once you start blanket drama queen accusations against other people no one cares what you have to say.

Debating gay marriage is in fact not remotely close to homophobia.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28172 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:12 pm to
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Every other state requires parental consent and all that allow 16 year olds to marry require consent if the woman isn't pregnant.


Not Idaho, and that was just the first one I checked. Under 16 they need a court order, 16 or 17 they just need a copy of their birth certificate.

https://marriage.uslegal.com/state-marriage-laws/idaho/

Again, clearly we view marriage as a little different than a normal contract. Makes sense that it would require a legal definition, which requires a law.
Posted by Mr Boyles
Member since Mar 2022
1600 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:13 pm to
I don’t understand why people are opposed to gay marriage. Who cares if dudes like dude and lesbians like lesbians?

It’s their lives not yours
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71158 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:16 pm to
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He is advocating for small government.


And the best way to do that is to get government out of the business of marriage. Get rid of the tax breaks and subsidies associated with it and give the institution back to the Church. If you want a piece of paper saying you love each other and want to spend the rest of your life together, go to a court house and have them print you a certificate if that makes you feel better about yourself.

Real marriage should be reserved for one man and one woman.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:20 pm to
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Not Idaho, and that was just the first one I checked. Under 16 they need a court order,


In cases where the child is a ward of the state, the court acts in that capacity.
Kids aren't running off and getting married anymore They're living together


there's no need to limit an age in an institution the federal government doesn't recognize



This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 7:28 pm
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