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Posted on 3/9/26 at 4:28 pm to GRTiger
Thank you for pointing that out.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 4:28 pm to GRTiger
I think he responded to the wrong poster.
I hate to give SFP credit anywhere but his takes in this thread are well founded.
I hate to give SFP credit anywhere but his takes in this thread are well founded.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 4:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I have read a ton of books on WW1 & 2. Several well sourced guys come in with figures between 1 & 2 million (that they directly attribute to the Nazis). But yes, 2 million or 6 million, it is sort of a strange thing to haggle over. Another item that isn’t discussed as much is how (and why) they died. The answers to those questions do not just reveal that Hitler was psychotic but also very stupid.
I'm not opposed to the theory that 6M is too high, but it's clearly at least 1M I'll ask my question from page 1 again What level of genocide is acceptable to avoid focusing so much efforts on this particular debunking?
Posted on 3/9/26 at 4:57 pm to idlewatcher
quote:
Various countries nationalists killed more people than that
But for whatever reason, Hollywood doesn't make movies about Stalin and Mao and the 60 million they killed.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 5:14 pm to rob0710
quote:
I'm not saying anything about Hitler but do you really trust what we've been taught in schools?
Research who published all of our textbooks.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:39 pm to Tantal
It is like this on all historical works:
1. It maters who wrote the book.
a. what they believed.
b. who they hate or admire
2. What is the press saying at the time.
a. who is writing the article
b. Is that person a friend or enemy of the person writing or his friends
3. What is the subject.
a. What is the general thought on the subject.
Right now, I have close to 200 books on Custer's Last Stand, in all the above count on what is being written.
You have hatred of players on both sides of the issue; the main difference today is the Sioux are looked on as victims, then as the enemy by most.
Today you have the Custer can do no wrong group and the Reno is the Devil.
One has to shift the sand of time and find out where the lines are drawn.
I may one day write a book on the battle.
The common theme since the 1800's is to downplay the number claimed in battles and history.
Today they think Custer ran into 1500 warriors, but Sitting bull said they had 5000 and Gall said 4000.
These are things that have to be worked out in history, always fighting the number game today no matter the subject in history.
Like the Black death that hit Europe and killed millions, at one point the number got very low on what the teachers taught in school, today the number has gone way back up; time and digs proved the numbers where very high.
1. It maters who wrote the book.
a. what they believed.
b. who they hate or admire
2. What is the press saying at the time.
a. who is writing the article
b. Is that person a friend or enemy of the person writing or his friends
3. What is the subject.
a. What is the general thought on the subject.
Right now, I have close to 200 books on Custer's Last Stand, in all the above count on what is being written.
You have hatred of players on both sides of the issue; the main difference today is the Sioux are looked on as victims, then as the enemy by most.
Today you have the Custer can do no wrong group and the Reno is the Devil.
One has to shift the sand of time and find out where the lines are drawn.
I may one day write a book on the battle.
The common theme since the 1800's is to downplay the number claimed in battles and history.
Today they think Custer ran into 1500 warriors, but Sitting bull said they had 5000 and Gall said 4000.
These are things that have to be worked out in history, always fighting the number game today no matter the subject in history.
Like the Black death that hit Europe and killed millions, at one point the number got very low on what the teachers taught in school, today the number has gone way back up; time and digs proved the numbers where very high.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 3/9/26 at 7:30 pm to tigger1
quote:
These are things that have to be worked out in history, always fighting the number game today no matter the subject in history.
There's one particular number that can never, under any circumstances, be debated publicly.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 7:39 pm to tigger1
quote:Use this when reading the bible
. It maters who wrote the book.
a. what they believed.
b. who they hate or admire
2. What is the press saying at the time.
a. who is writing the article
b. Is that person a friend or enemy of the person writing or his friends
3. What is the subject.
a. What is the general thought on the subject.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 3/9/26 at 7:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
Enlighten me oh wise one. How do you defeat them?
I’m all ears.
I’m all ears.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:15 pm to The Eric
The leftists in Russia killed more.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:26 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
quote:
If you believe the 6 million number, it's simply because you were told to believe it. You haven't been presented documented evidence that verifies the claim.
You have been told not to believe it.
Plus, comparing a modern way of cremating people in a coffin to how you would in Nazi Germany or any war is dumb. Of course you would burn multiple bodies at a time. This isn’t a fricking service in present day US.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:30 pm to dgnx6
Look up the USA - Philippines War. Never hear about it. We committed serious atrocities not long before WW1 and 2. "Kill everyone over 10". Camps. Went total scorched earth on them FOR nothing really. Some/one groups just have much better PR I guess.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:32 pm to The Eric
Hitler liquidated around 12 million people in his camps.
Stalin made him look like a piker among mass murderers.
Stalin made him look like a piker among mass murderers.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:48 pm to hghlndk
Show him the films that were shown at Nuremberg
Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:52 pm to TFH
Hitler wasn't elected by the majority of Germans
Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:54 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
So you want to Erase the Jews from Hitler’s kill count? If that ain’t hilarious irony I don’t know what is.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:58 pm to oldtrucker
quote:
Hitler wasn't elected by the majority of Germans
They didn’t elect Chancellor by popular vote at the time. He followed the established, constitutional path.
Posted on 3/9/26 at 8:58 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
quote:
Plus the other 40 million people that died as a result of His decisions
And I believe his plans for the conquest of Russia included starving millions of them to death . I think 20 million Russians died fighting Gernany and Germany lost 7 million.
The numbers are beyond comprehension.
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