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re: The only congressman that tried to stop the foreign aid grift was Thomas Massie.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:21 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:21 pm to BBONDS25
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Spending cuts he didn’t get
Because Mike Johnson and Trump chose to go with the BBB instead.
Is that Massie's fault that he tried to leverage the debt ceiling in order to get spending cuts and the leaders of the GOP chose not to use them?
When has the debt ceiling not been raised? When?
It has always been the position of conservatives like those in the Freedom Caucus to trade off the a debt ceiling increase in order to get spending cuts.
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Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You two dummies want to conflate that into something else. I gave you the facts.
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liar
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No, the "One Big Beautiful Bill" (formally known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act or OBBB Act) was not the same thing as solely raising the U.S. debt ceiling
Roger lying …..again. Makes sense since you finally admitted to being a liberal. Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:23 pm to BBONDS25
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Roger lying …..again. Makes sense since you finally admitted to being a liberal.
Do you not know what a classical liberal is??
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:23 pm to frogtown
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Because Mike Johnson and Trump chose to go with the BBB instead.
Which is very different than the vote of Massie’s I was referring to, correct?
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Is that Massie's fault that he tried to leverage the debt ceiling in order to get spending cuts and the leaders of the GOP chose not to use them?
Yes. He was the deciding vote.
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When has the debt ceiling not been raised? When?
So you’re good with raising the debt ceiling without it being part of a much larger bill?
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It has always been the position of conservatives like those in the Freedom Caucus to trade off the a debt ceiling increase in order to get spending cuts.
Yet no cuts came to fruition.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:24 pm to BBONDS25
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I think they understand it after I explained their ignorance. However, they refuse to admit to being morons so they triple down. The distinction is clear. They just don’t like it because it makes them look silly.
Agreed
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:24 pm to frogtown
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Do you not know what a classical liberal is??
I’m the one that linked the site that gave the definition Roger posted. Perhaps you should read the entire thread. I warned you about aligning with Roger.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:25 pm to RandRules
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no Massie haters will respond.
I don't care for Massie, but it doesn't mean he's not right about some things
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:27 pm to BBONDS25
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Do you not know what a classical liberal is??
I’m the one that linked the site that gave the definition Roger posted. Perhaps you should read the entire thread. I warned you about aligning with Roger.
I think he is about to defend liberalism.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:28 pm to Sassafrasology
Will Donald sign the bill that gives Ukraine $800 million more?
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:28 pm to BBONDS25
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So you’re good with raising the debt ceiling without it being part of a much larger bill?
No idiot. We are $40 trillion in debt with a $2 trillion per year deficit.
Any increase in the debt ceiling should be accompanied by spending cuts, period.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:30 pm to BBONDS25
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Roger lying …..again. Makes sense since you finally admitted to being a liberal.
This is funny. You have no clue what a classical liberal is.
Ever heard of Cognitive Load Theory? I'm watching it happen in real time right now.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:34 pm to BCreed1
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I think he is about to defend liberalism.
No idiot.
Classical liberals/modern conservatives/anti-statist libertarians. These overlap.
Our founders were classical liberals.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:38 pm to frogtown
You don't see the issue with your defending it do you?
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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This is funny. You have no clue what a classical liberal is.
I’m the one that provided YOU with the definition.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 12:45 pm to frogtown
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No idiot. We are $40 trillion in debt with a $2 trillion per year deficit. Any increase in the debt ceiling should be accompanied by spending cuts, period.
I don’t disagree. I guess Massie is an idiot for siding with the Dems and raising it….right?
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:33 pm to Sassafrasology
it is funny how he only stands up when he knows he cant win. What a coincidence?
Posted on 12/11/25 at 1:42 pm to Sassafrasology
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To get the legislation passed to release the Epstein files Massie got pummeled by the administration and their influencers. But he kept appealing to the people and eventually force Congress to pass his (and others) legislation 427-1 in the House and 99-0 in the Senate. In this particular example his performative stance became substance.
And then what happened,........not a F@cking thing.
If he wants to stop foreign aid, get a few congressmen on your side and target one piece at a time. That is how legislation is effectively passed. Massie wants to be a legislature without legislating.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:02 pm to BBONDS25
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I’m the one that provided YOU with the definition.
I don't need a definition.Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:04 pm to Sassafrasology
What about all the other foreign aid over the years he's been in government?
Oh that's right, he's playing you.
Oh that's right, he's playing you.
Posted on 12/11/25 at 2:08 pm to BBONDS25
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I don’t disagree.
Yes you do disagree. The Fiscal Responsibility Act was a raise in the debt ceiling accompanied by spending cuts. You have been disagreeing with that the last three months.
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