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re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine

Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:05 pm to
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I thought they were supposed to have one of the largest armies in Europe.

They do, or did. But not in terms of armor / air-force.

They have a lot of human soldiers with a lot of guns and a lot of shoulder-mounted anti-tank / anti-aircraft equipment.

Whatever armor / tanks Ukraine has/had are likely gone now that Russia has air-superiority.

IDK more than you do, but that's my understanding of things before the conflict broke out. If the NATO promised weapons actually arrived, which is no guarantee, the Ukrainians can likely inflict small scale damage.

Small scale damage will not stop a full-blown invasion. It could, and likely will, cause a lot of headaches over a long-term occupation effort.
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:06 pm to
I saw rumors of a Russian jet shot down over Kharkiv yesterday. Here appears to be some evidence..but who knows..

Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:08 pm to
Something doesn’t add up. Either Ukraine is taking heavy losses or they are turning themselves over as Russia advances
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:14 pm to
Kharkiv appears to be taking a beating tonight



Kharkiv 1

Kharkiv 2
Posted by Warmth in Winter
Member since Jan 2022
876 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:19 pm to
Ukraine is fricked
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33741 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:20 pm to
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SlavicWarrior®?@q_slavic

Shops are getting looted in Ukraine


Twitter videos
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:22 pm to
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If the NATO promised weapons actually arrived


How is NATO going to get this stuff in with the Russians controlling the skies and roads?

It is almost like NATO and the West will promise, but when it comes time to deliver have a ready made excuse not to deliver. This is some of the things that make you go what the hell is going on....

Again, I still keep going back to the Israelis, why are they so quiet considering their doctrine of protecting the Jewish faith at all costs? By now Israel should have said or done something, they never let aggression go to waste.
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:23 pm to
I’ve seen videos of their soldiers looting food stores too
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:23 pm to
Here is a video of the big explosion outside of Kharkiv. Looks to have hit an oil or ammo depot?

Big Explosion
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:25 pm to
That happened a day or so ago. Huge
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:25 pm to
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Something doesn’t add up. Either Ukraine is taking heavy losses or they are turning themselves over as Russia advances

It all adds up based on what we knew / know.

Russia is advancing with technological / military superiority.

Ukraine is inflicting the kind of losses a large army with shoulder-mounted weapons can inflict.

There's no way to confirm the reports of Russian soldiers quitting, but there are plenty of videos of abandoned equipment. Propaganda? Maybe. But it could also be a sign of ill-equipped Russians.

I think the ultimate unpacking of all this, when we have the clarity of history, will be fascinating.
Posted by Warmth in Winter
Member since Jan 2022
876 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:27 pm to
I don’t think we get clarity. Will be a lot of sweeping under the rug by NATO.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36219 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:28 pm to
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Russia is advancing with technological / military superiority.


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But it could also be a sign of ill-equipped Russians.

Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:29 pm to
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I don’t think we get clarity. Will be a lot of sweeping under the rug by NATO.

3-5 years from now, sure.

10-15 years from now? 30+? We'll have a real idea of what's happened.

I mean, Western historians have read Stalin's personal letters. This stuff comes out eventually.
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Shorty_price
Member since Oct 2018
420 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:30 pm to
Anybody else thinking Russia unleashes all hell on Keiv tonight during SOTU? Potato Brain's address will start at 4am Ukraine time believe.
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:30 pm to
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That happened a day or so ago. Huge


Reports say Kharkiv but you're probably right.
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:32 pm to
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There's no way to confirm the reports of Russian soldiers quitting, but there are plenty of videos of abandoned equipment. Propaganda? Maybe. But it could also be a sign of ill-equipped Russians.


I am guessing mechanical problems or lack of fuel and logistical support not available.

I am a little surprised about the rapid movements in the south. There is only a single supply line road to the Crimea although there is a good port available. You would think logistics would be pretty limited until they get good open roads through Maripol to the Donbass.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:32 pm to
Maybe, but the video was the same I think
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 12:32 pm
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18614 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:40 pm to
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Absolutely!! I think Putin wants to show he can do just what your cute emoji thinks he can’t do!!


You seem genuinely excited at anything Pro-Russia/Putin. And hoping to see an entire nation starving to death. You are weird AF dude.
Posted by Kansas City King
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2020
3685 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:49 pm to
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You seem genuinely excited at anything Pro-Russia/Putin. And hoping to see an entire nation starving to death. You are weird AF dude.

Yeah, if yall aren't on America and NATO's side, feel free to move to Russia where Russian rubles are worth less than the toilet paper you wipe your arse with. frick PUTIN
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