re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine

They do it it makes it more of a humanitarian thing and indiscriminate killing like the Axis and Allies did.

. But I was speaking of just military thought. They end it that way.

I’m still surprised Israel hasn’t done anything with their doctrine of protecting all of the Jewish faith

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Paul McLeary @paulmcleary · 6m

CNN reporting now the explosion over Kyiv tonight was a Ukrainian SU-27 shot down by Russian anti-air battery in the city's suburbs. Ukraine has lost the skies over its capital. Grim.

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I tend to believe the other reports….

NY style or what? A good foldable grease filled pepperoni sounds great

That looked like a way bigger explosion than that…

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How many people are actually being killed in this? Seems like with the bombing there should be high causalities

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The number will go up after tonight and will probably be revised in coming days, but so far the official civilian death toll is between 10 - 50. That seems really low, but it is possible. The USSR designed bomb shelters into their cities when they rebuilt after WW@. Plus the old soviet apartment buildings (which are still present in a large part of Ukraine) were built out of reinforced concrete and they all had coal fired heating systems in each unit. Which means that each apartment building has huge spaces in the basements where coal would be stored before residents carried it up to their apartment each day. This coal storage bunkers all have ventilation fans to keep the coal dust from building up and starting a fire as well as multiple coal chutes from the outside. The coal heaters have mostly been replaced by gas or electric heaters which left huge spaces made out of reinforced concrete underneath most apartment buildings that can be used as bomb shelters which have decent ventilation.

Also Kyiv and the other major cities have massive subway stations that can be used as shelters. The USSR went all out on making the subways a symbol of power and grandeur plus they were originally designed to be nuclear shelters as well subway stations.

So all of that helps.

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I heard they got the airbase back today

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The Ukrainian government and most foreign media outlets are saying they did. CNN's correspondent is still saying that the Russians control it. Maybe the CNN guy does not know the difference between a Ukrainian and a Russian. However, the AN-225 was destroyed in the fighting.

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BREAKING: Russia says it will return the airlines sanctions it was slapped with, mirror the same ones for the west.

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Does this mean that Aeroflot is kicked out SkyTeam? Their service was crappy compared to KLM and Air France, but their flight attendants were smoking hot on most of the flights I have been on.

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You know you can say frick Putin and frick Russia, right? You are (presumably) an adult.

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I have gotten multiple messages from admins over the years telling me to not say the whole f-word so much.

Is the Ukrainian government encouraging the use of Subways as shelters? In the Blitz the British government tried to keep people out of subways initially