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re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine
Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:46 pm to Kentucker
Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:46 pm to Kentucker
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As long as Putin is in charge this will not happen. His world view is so warped that he thinks the Russian military is equal to the West, even after they got smashed in northern Ukraine.
I fought in Fallujah Iraq and spent two deployments in that crap hole of the world. And I can tell you if the armed militias/terrorists/ republican gaurd was being supplied the weapons and money the west is supplying Ukraine we would have not taken that country in the short time we did.
This isn’t an indictment on the US. I love this country and would proudly serve again. But I feel the perception of ineptitude towards Russias military capabilities are dangerous. They are closest to near peer soon to be surpassed by China if not already. Russia is not fully mobilized and I’m not talking about nuclear and chemical weapons.
Something is not right about this conflict from the moment it started and that’s what worries me.
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:01 pm to TigerAttorney
When you get away from western media, other sources say Russia has been fighting with one hand tied behind their back to save infrastructure and people. Not sure if I believe that, but I did come across this today, which would demonstrate a turn in the other direction.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:21 pm to TigerAttorney
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Russia is not fully mobilized
Russia has the best equipment, officers and personnel they have in Ukraine. Whats left is bits and pieces and older equipment and un/undertrained personnel.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 4:17 pm to Bunk Moreland
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When you get away from western media, other sources say Russia has been fighting with one hand tied behind their back to save infrastructure and people. Not sure if I believe that, but I did come across this today, which would demonstrate a turn in the other direction.
If your trying to annex a territory you can’t use full force. It’s a fact. Russia has air superiority, space superiority, satellite mapping (heightened GPS). The west is sending Ukraine tanks and armored vehicles? It’s political theater.
China Russia and United States. They will never fight a conventional war because the losses for all sides would be too great.
Just like Russia won’t test NATO no matter how much they bark, they can’t demolish the entirety of Ukraine if they want the people to “assimilate”.
Hearts and Minds.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 4:18 pm to TigerAttorney
And for the record screw Russia for causing this mess. But do a little research on military capabilities. There’s a reason we didn’t send aircraft.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 4:44 pm to TigerAttorney
We have retards in this thread who actually think Ukraine is goi g to launch an offensive strike into Russo territory. LOL.
It must be nice to not ever serve in the military and be experts on war online.
It must be nice to not ever serve in the military and be experts on war online.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 5:05 pm to Goonie02
Ukraine has already launched offensive strikes on Russia, on more than one occasion.
What they haven't done is launch a full-blown land attack into Crimea which absolutely could happen if they are able to obtain the initiative in their spring offensive.
What they haven't done is launch a full-blown land attack into Crimea which absolutely could happen if they are able to obtain the initiative in their spring offensive.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 5:06 pm to TigerAttorney
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Just like Russia won’t test NATO no matter how much they bark, they can’t demolish the entirety of Ukraine if they want the people to “assimilate”.
Have you seen Mariupal? They are demolishing all of Eastern Ukraine that doesn't submit, sending people to filtration camps, and trying to obliterate their elites and their language and national culture. That's how they're planning to "assimilate" them.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 5:18 pm to Chromdome35
What? You absolutely do not know what you are talking about. Launching an offensive means gaining back territory. There is no sign Ukraine is taking back The lost territories anytime soon. What Spring offensive are you talking about?
Site your sources that Ukraine is about to go on an offensive. They are still trying to hold ground in small pockets of Mariupol and Donbas but suddenly they are going to spring an all out charge into Russia itself.
Site your sources that Ukraine is about to go on an offensive. They are still trying to hold ground in small pockets of Mariupol and Donbas but suddenly they are going to spring an all out charge into Russia itself.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 5:26 pm to Chromdome35
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Ukraine has already launched offensive strikes on Russia, on more than one occasion.
What they haven't done is launch a full-blown land attack into Crimea which absolutely could happen if they are able to obtain the initiative in their spring offensive.
Yea. Kind of hard to launch an offensive when an enemy has over 100K troops in your "home country"..........
Posted on 4/27/22 at 5:55 pm to Goonie02
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We have retards in this thread who actually think Ukraine is goi g to launch an offensive strike into Russo territory
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Launching an offensive means gaining back territory
Ukraine has launched strikes into Russia, Ukraine has not invaded Russia...yet.
And I have no source, if you had any reading comprehension skills, you will notice in my statement that I said "In my opinion, Ukraine is just buying time right now until the muddy season is over by which time they will have more troops in the battle than Russia."
My opinion, you don't have to agree.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 6:19 pm to Chromdome35
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Ukraine is just buying time right now until the muddy season is over by which time they will have more troops in the battle than Russia."
Yea, Ukraine is just "buying time". Losing lives, equipment, territory, civilians..... Right where they want them.
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 4/27/22 at 6:21 pm to JayDeerTay84
Time will tell which of us correct.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 6:24 pm to Chromdome35
The cool thing about time is its always there!
Posted on 4/27/22 at 6:26 pm to TigerDoc
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Have you seen Mariupal? They are demolishing all of Eastern Ukraine that doesn't submit, sending people to filtration camps, and trying to obliterate their elites and their language and national culture. That's how they're planning to "assimilate" them.
Then they must be winning. But no. They are being embarrassed. So what is it?
Russia is taking what they want in Ukraine short of the US putting boots on the ground. That’s a fact. We can send all the shite and drag it out for a year let Russia hang back. (I don’t agree with putting boots on the ground just want to be clear.) I don’t support it. But we can send a million tanks. There is no close air support! Hello. Has anyone actually served and been deployed. Without air superiority your nothing.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 6:45 pm to Goonie02
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Launching an offensive means gaining back territory. There is no sign Ukraine is taking back
When is Russia getting Kiev? How's that going?
Posted on 4/27/22 at 6:55 pm to TigerAttorney
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Then they must be winning. But no. They are being embarrassed. So what is it?
Russia is taking what they want in Ukraine short of the US putting boots on the ground. That’s a fact.
They had a successful offensive in the South until they hit a wall at Mykolaiv and a failed offensive in the North and the east is somewhat in between.
Your argument sounds like "if they're not taking it then they don't want it" and that's a little silly.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 7:13 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:DO you really not know? Or are you just trying to change the goalposts?
When is Russia getting Kiev? How's that going?
Posted on 4/27/22 at 7:29 pm to JayDeerTay84
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DO you really not know? Or are you just trying to change the goalposts?
I guess the difference between tactical retreat and counteroffensive is a preference in propaganda.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 7:33 pm to NYNolaguy1
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I guess the difference between tactical retreat and counteroffensive is a preference in propaganda.
Russia never captured Kyiv though. It was successfully defended. The topic was Ukraine launching offensives to recaptured controlled land. Russia never controlled Kyiv.
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