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re: The Next Recession Will Destroy Millennials
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
Now you need certificates to be a welder, and other blue collar jobs. You don't just get an apprenticeship for welding anymore. At 17 most kids can't see past the end of their nose and their parents are still making their decisions for them.
Blue collar jobs are paying tremendously better than they were 10 years ago and that is because of a labor supply shortage.
Blue collar jobs are paying tremendously better than they were 10 years ago and that is because of a labor supply shortage.
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Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:53 am to dafif
My take on the gen x/millenial/boomer thing is this: Most all of the people in congress are boomers. They are all greedy sob's that have taken the american dream and pretty much squashed it. Asking for more government help is what will ruin this country. Getting all of them out will take a concerted effort of all of us. That does not appear to be happening anytime soon. There are way too many people wanting free stuff from the government. Whether that is poor parenting or just government brainwashing is another story and debate for another day.
So, the question is, is there anyone on this forum that thinks more government involvement is the answer? Or, is a concerted effort to get rid of the current politicians and replace with those not interested in gaming the system for their own wealth?
So, the question is, is there anyone on this forum that thinks more government involvement is the answer? Or, is a concerted effort to get rid of the current politicians and replace with those not interested in gaming the system for their own wealth?
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
The criticism of Millenials is a projection into the future. It's based on an aggregate summary of the generation's belief system. It's imperfect. And, perhaps millenials are viewed more left than they really are. But, assuming the assumptions about millenials are correct, they resemble exactly what you whine about with the boomers.
THAT'S why millenials are criticized. It's not your strawman argument that millenials are the cause of our problems. Nobody believes that and nobody is arguing that point other than yourself.
When someone pointed out that millenials voted Obama, they are pointing out their belief system...not literally saying they were the biggest group responsible for putting him in office.
I think your argument is way off point.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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that kid LITERALLY put Obama in office single-handedly, though
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:01 am to yatesdog38
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Now you need certificates to be a welder, and other blue collar jobs. You don't just get an apprenticeship for welding anymore. At 17 most kids can't see past the end of their nose and their parents are still making their decisions for them.
Blue collar jobs are paying tremendously better than they were 10 years ago and that is because of a labor supply shortage.
Go to votec and, get certificate
You can make 100k mining, working on ships, construction... and no welding required.
Any 18 year old letting a parent make a decision for them is an idiot. It's not their life.
Kids used to be more independent at 16 than they are at 24 now.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:05 am to RogerTheShrubber
i don't disagree with this at all... it has just taken 10 years and mountains of student debt for kids and their parents to see real value.
what can you do in votec for construction that will get you 100k job?
what can you do in votec for construction that will get you 100k job?
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:06 am to GRTiger
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economic
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illiterates
That sounds like millennials who overpay for a crappy degree just so they can party..
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:08 am to yatesdog38
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what can you do in votec for construction that will get you 100k job?
In many areas just go through an apprenticeship. Starts around 18 bucks an hour while you learn.
He a CDL and drive trucks in the oilfield.
Stewards on our ferries start at 50k a year with no training and go up to 80k. And there's a shortage
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
does this include healthcare benefits? and what is the COLA
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:24 am to 93and99
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How did boomers frick millennials ?
Well they raised them so I believe there is a bit of culpability and there.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:27 am to yatesdog38
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does this include healthcare benefits? and what is the COLA
Absolutely.
COLA, not sure. They just negotiated a new contract.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:30 am to moneyg
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THAT'S why millenials are criticized. It's not your strawman argument that millenials are the cause of our problems. Nobody believes that and nobody is arguing that point other than yourself.
I was referencing a post literally blaming Millennials for getting Obama elected. That post was 100% serious
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When someone pointed out that millenials voted Obama, they are pointing out their belief system...not literally saying they were the biggest group responsible for putting him in office.
It makes no sense. Why even bring up Obama? Young people lean left. It's not some shocking revelation. The post was implying they got Obama elected and added to the debt (due to entitlements passed 2009-2016), so their hands aren't clean. That's ludicrous
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
Where can I apply and do they accept people with disabilities.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:39 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
I guess I'm technically a millennial, or rather a xennial. Luckily none of this applies to me, I made it through school with zero debt by getting scholarships and working and going to a state school, and I've more than doubled my pay working with the same company for 10+ years. My wife has done even better and has even more earning potential in her career, so we will for sure retire if not in the 1% at least in the 5%. Not bad one generation removed from parents who were as poor as it's possible to be, but made good life choices
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:49 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:on aggregate yes, but not for all subsets; only certain groups.
Kids used to be more independent at 16 than they are at 24 now.
Namely, kids from 2 parent households vs 1 parent households. An interesting survey asked parents what was more important to them; encouraging their kid to be independent and self sufficient or enforcing parental control. By a 4-1 margin, parents in 2-parent households said that fostering independence and self sufficiency was more important. By about the same margin, 1-parent households said that maintaining control was more important.
Like so many other things I’m our country, this decline can largely be blamed on the decline of two parent homes.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 10:51 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:04 am to narddogg81
Someone previously posted: "And I'm saying this as someone who's been waiting on positions to open most of my career. If it meant that much to me, I'd find places where those opening exist."
The current generation of young people do not want a "job" they want a "position". They have an extreme aversion to real "work" and getting their finger nails dirty.
As a business owner in the heavy equipment manufacturing, repair, and servicing industry, We find that in spite of offering well above average wages and benefits,it seems almost impossible to find qualified personnel to fill openings for mechanics, welders, machinists, etc. etc. Those few who are otherwise suitable candidates can seldom pass the required drug testing protocol.
The jobs are out there and begging for qualified candidates, however, the young people of today do not seem to want a job where they might have to work, but would rather wait for someone like myself to die off so that they might possibly rise through the ranks without having to put forth much effort. They want the "participation trophy" that they have been given ever since they entered the terrible two's. This does not bode well for the Nation.
The current generation of young people do not want a "job" they want a "position". They have an extreme aversion to real "work" and getting their finger nails dirty.
As a business owner in the heavy equipment manufacturing, repair, and servicing industry, We find that in spite of offering well above average wages and benefits,it seems almost impossible to find qualified personnel to fill openings for mechanics, welders, machinists, etc. etc. Those few who are otherwise suitable candidates can seldom pass the required drug testing protocol.
The jobs are out there and begging for qualified candidates, however, the young people of today do not seem to want a job where they might have to work, but would rather wait for someone like myself to die off so that they might possibly rise through the ranks without having to put forth much effort. They want the "participation trophy" that they have been given ever since they entered the terrible two's. This does not bode well for the Nation.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:11 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
The problem with millennials these days is it's not about being smart or not smart as far as human intelligence, most of them have the entitlement attitude and are lazy as hell. There are some exceptions with parents who have raised their kids right but really all in all its millennials parents fault for raising them like they did.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 11:12 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:21 am to funnystuff
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What do you mean “thinks this way”? Thinks that millennials will be the first generation to live economically worse off than their parents? That’s not an opinion that someone thinks up, that’s observed statstical reality.
Globalism failed. We shouldn't hate millenials and their concerns because if we ignore and ridicule(what many on this board and in this thread are doing) we will vote in socialism.
I won't blame conservatives for Warren being President, but I do know that attitudes from many on this board will be at least somewhat of a culprit.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:23 am to PickupAutist
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