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re: The migrant situation in Europe is completely out of control
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:28 pm to HVAU
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:28 pm to HVAU
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Have you been to Europe lately? I was in France last summer and Greece/Switzerland The last couple of weeks. It’s an absolute hellscape. France is completely inundated with delicious cuisine, amazing architecture and priceless art in Paris. Provence is in much worse shape with bucolic vistas, inexpensive, locally grown food and wine, and friendly people (I highly don’t recommend the small villages around Avignon). Marseille is a coastal apocalypse where you can find great prices for boating tours of the calanques. Nice is likewise a disaster where the French and Italian cultures merge on the Cotes d’Azur. The Promenade was littered with wonderful restaurants, beautiful women in bikinis or less, and quaint antique, open air markets.
Greece, oh good lord. They don’t even speak English, or at least some don’t. I was forced to revisit western history on the Acropolis and the Archeological Museum. I was subjected to gyros, souvlaki, pastitsio, moussaka, saganski, and worst of all retsina. That was just in Athens. Naxos and Santorini were just too unbearable to describe.
Zurich was the icing on the most diabolical cake ever. Affordable public transportation, forward thinking architectural design that considers climate and pollution, probably the cleanest city I’ve ever been to all amidst mountains, medieval old towns and the picturesque Lake Zurich.
It’s completely out of hand.
This literally addressed nothing about the topic.
As a fellow frequent traveler, you sound like those people who summarize a country by its tourist hotspots and not even the further afield parts of them where true culture of a place is found.
It makes you look really stupid when you’re trying to look cultured to people who know better.
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:33 pm to Speckhunter2012
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Who supported those who wished to deny our civil liberties to go to the frickn store unless we were vaxed.
Link? Because I was pretty detailed about what I supported and it didn't include lockdowns, you dim pussy.
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You have no room to talk here.
Yeah I do.
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All you chastised us about has been proven lies and psyops.
Nah, my knowledge of the molecular immunology was nonpariel. You are just upset because nothing you want to happen in this world will come to fruition. Cope my bitch.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:34 pm to Jrv2damac
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This literally addressed nothing about the topic. As a fellow frequent traveler, you sound like those people who summarize a country by its tourist hotspots and not even the further afield parts of them where true culture of a place is found. It makes you look really stupid when you’re trying to look cultured to people who know better.
Feel free to suggest the parts of Paris and Provence I should have visited. Or the areas of Athens. What towns in Naxos should I go to, and Santorini?
We plan our own travel, use local rentals and not resorts and drive around the areas we’re visiting, as well as use the public transportation available in those areas.
We don’t seek out areas that aren’t advisable, but I don’t go hang out in the worst parts of NO, NYC or DC when we travel either.
If that’s your thing, go for it.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:36 pm to jimmy the leg
Marseille is a shithole. Nice is still fantastic
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:36 pm to Exit Sandman
My kin are from Britain and they say England is ruined. Cathedrals that were built 1200 years ago are being turned into mosques. Their culture is slowly being erased.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:37 pm to HVAU
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As is Bham or New Orleans, but I still go there regularly.
But I wasn’t attacked in either of those two places. At least I have a souvenir from Marseille…a permanent one.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:38 pm to H newman
Probably better a mosque than a unitarian church 
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:38 pm to SirWinston
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Marseille is a shithole. Nice is still fantastic
It’s huge though. There are areas you don’t want to go to, but there are also some really cool spots.
Nice was preferable though. We stayed on the north side of old Nice, but ventured north west of the tram line. It’s cool mix of cultures.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:39 pm to HVAU
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We don’t seek out areas that aren’t advisable, but I don’t go hang out in the worst parts of NO, NYC or DC when we travel either.
What makes some areas of cities not advisable?
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:39 pm to jimmy the leg
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But I wasn’t attacked in either of those two places. At least I have a souvenir from Marseille…a permanent one.
Did you get stabbed? When was that?
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:41 pm to Exit Sandman
The middle easterners who migrated have a legit excuse. We kind of directly and indirectly destroyed their own countries.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:41 pm to Bard
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It's looking better and better every day, but Polish language seems brutal.
It depends on where you are, the areas bordering Germany are increasingly westernized. Although East Germany, oddly enough, is much healthier when it comes to social views than the former FRG.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:41 pm to jimmy the leg
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But I wasn’t attacked in either of those two places. At least I have a souvenir from Marseille…a permanent one.
Did one of Jacky the Tomcat Le Mat's men get you?
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:43 pm to tigerinmexico
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What makes some areas of cities not advisable?
I usually look up crime stats in new places. They’re pretty good at giving you local areas to avoid or be cautious in. There are also state department advisories for overseas travel, but we’ve ignored them, like the warnings about Syntagma Square.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 11:00 pm to HVAU
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So what? frick them? Live and let die?
Limit them. In small enough numbers they’ll assimilate; let in enough and you get third world values in a first world country. You sound like you think France and other nations are obligated to commit national suicide because some places in the world suck; I disagree.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 11:07 pm to HVAU
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Have you been to Europe lately?
I lived in France. The people in the cities are scared shitless of Muslim youths and provoking them. French people do not have the right to protect their property with lethal force.
They thought I was crazy for confronting some kids for blasting loud music on the train on day on my way back from the grocery store. One lady thanked me for it and said France is not the same place in which she grew up.
You have no clue about what’s really happening in france.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 11:08 pm to Flats
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Limit them. In small enough numbers they’ll assimilate; let in enough and you get third world values in a first world country. You sound like you think France and other nations are obligated to commit national suicide because some places in the world suck; I disagree.
What I think is best is to have a concerted effort among more nations to place refugees of war torn areas in new homelands. In other words, spread the burden over a broader area. Unfortunately, a lot of the xenophobia that exists in the world prevents that and the burden falls on a smaller number of countries resulting in large population densities of refugees, and less assimilation into their new cultures.
Everything comes down to good policy in the end.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 11:13 pm to Masterag
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You have no clue about what’s really happening in france.
Probably not, but it sure was a lovely place to explore. I’d move there in a heartbeat if my family was onboard.
Cheers on telling kids to turn their music down. I’ve had to the same thing in my white, suburban neighborhood here in Huntsville.
Also, it appears France has a version of “stand your ground” laws that allows for reasonable use of force when protecting yourself and your property.
This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 6/14/23 at 11:15 pm to HVAU
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resulting in large population densities of refugees, and less assimilation into their new cultures.
Which is the entire point of the thread. You tried to imply that it wasn’t an issue, then you admitted that it’s an issue but apparently it’s cruel not to self immolate a country, now you’re saying they just need “good policy”.
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resulting in large population densities of refugees, and less assimilation into their new cultures.
That’s not good policy. Which is the entire point of the topic.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 11:24 pm to HVAU
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Did you get stabbed? When was that?
Sliced. 1988. Doing laundry. Arab Quarter. Two Legionaries had been killed there the night before. I didn’t know that until after the fact.
Like I said, I’ve been hitting up Europe for 30+ years. That was a looong time ago.
Nonetheless, Marseille left its mark on me.
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