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re: The Medium income Amercan Family now earns 1/2 the income needed to buy the avg home.

Posted on 3/14/25 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 5:47 pm to
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A median IS an average.
no
Posted by RollTide4547
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 5:52 pm to
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Trump is a Freemason
Is SlaveMason or IndenturedMason better?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 5:58 pm to
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Trump is a Freemason
Really?????

Link ??????

Hint: Please do not attempt to connect this to a 2010 photo of Trump receiving an honorary degree from Robert Gordon University in Scotland, because you will get eviscerated for that BS.

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:12 pm to
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There are few neighborhoods being built with 1200 square foot homes that aren't meant for Section 8/lower income populations. Lots of these homes get built, but they're being built specifically for poor people in undesirable areas.

Do you think in the good old USA, if there were dollars to be made building 1200 sq ft homes with linoleum floors, formica countertops, swamp cooling, the cheapest appliances available, no garage - you know, the home that boomers were sold back when they were stealing your future - if developers could make money building those for millennials today, don't you think they'd be doing it?

Posted by Lightning
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:17 pm to
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Do you think in the good old USA, if there were dollars to be made building 1200 sq ft homes with linoleum floors, formica countertops, swamp cooling, the cheapest appliances available, no garage - you know, the home that boomers were sold back when they were stealing your future - if developers could make money building those for millennials today, don't you think they'd be doing it?


They can’t because land prices and development costs are too high to make these types of affordable homes profitable. These types of homes often are not allowed in cities or their ETJ either - zoning requirements for lot size, minimum square footage, setbacks, etc.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:26 pm to
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They can’t because land prices and development costs are too high to make these types of affordable homes profitable

Everywhere? I live in the Phoenix area and I'm sure what you suggest here is accurate for all the well-developed/pricey suburbs but something tells me if you wanted to build 1200 ft starter homes halfway between Gilbert and Florence, you'd be able to. I'm sure the same is true most places.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:40 pm to
yeah well how many of those are wellfare leaches that play the game to live off the government? I'm very much under the belief that the majority of people that live like that do so because they are fkn lazy. It is out there for the taking for people that have strong work ethic.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:55 pm to
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has been allowed to deteriorate into such a state that they simply aren’t livable.


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These “starter” apartments and homes are now permanently lived in by a underclass and turned into unsafe ghettos


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Now it’s grind it out with roommates or buy a smaller house way out of city center and commute.


because of the first two situations, which are always due to a certain group of people......most people do move outside of town. It is cheaper and safer.

That certain group destroys everything they touch.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10345 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 7:10 pm to
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Good job! So assuming $38K down, ROI over 5yrs is ~210% in tax protected profits.


That’s exactly what we did. 40K down.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:20 pm to
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Nope. I have a 19 year old and 17 year old and they aren’t going to be bitching like this. Guaranteed.


Says most parents.....but having to pay twice as much for a house as compared to 14 years ago is absurd.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:22 pm to
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So your answer is ... 3.2 x median income in 1974 vs 2.6 x median income in 2024


I think you should stay away from math or answering questions from people
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:24 pm to
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A median IS an average.

no


Found another reason you should stay away from math
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:29 pm to
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Says most parents.....but having to pay twice as much for a house as compared to 14 years ago is absurd.


The CPI adjusted median price in 2006 (the peak before the crash) was around $340k. Now it’s around $420k.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:30 pm to
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Found another reason you should stay away from math


Oof. This is going to get awkward.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:32 pm to
Here’s some data. Tell me what the median is

1
2
8
12
3,000,000,000
Posted by blue_morrison
Member since Jan 2013
5941 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:42 pm to
Mean

Median

Mode

Average

All similar, but different.


Price to Income Ratio.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 9:44 pm
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:43 pm to
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Oof. This is going to get awkward.


I know, right? Imagine not understanding simple math terms like average
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:44 pm to
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Here’s some data. Tell me what the median is



You want the mean, too?

Or maybe you'd like the mode?

All of which would be averages.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:45 pm to
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Mean


quote:

Average


Explain how these are calculated.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:46 pm to
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A median IS an average.




LOL. Wut?

Good God.
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