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re: The Medium income Amercan Family now earns 1/2 the income needed to buy the avg home.

Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:47 pm to
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Found another reason you should stay away from math



My God. This stupid frick is doubling down.
Posted by blue_morrison
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:48 pm to
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This stupid frick is doubling down.


So just to go on record here, a median is not an average?

Wanna bet?
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:50 pm to
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So just to go on record here, a median is not an average?

Wanna bet?


Sigh. A type of Average. You're being a silly nitpick
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:50 pm to
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Sigh. A type of Average.


Awesome.

Glad we can agree on a median being an average
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:51 pm to
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Sigh. A type of Average. You're being a silly nitpick


Moreover, just like the mode is a type of average, both the median and the mode become ever shitter averages the less normally distributed the data is.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:52 pm to
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Moreover, just like the mode is a type of average, both the median and the mode become ever shitter averages the less normally distributed the data is.


Congrats, you've now caught up to 6th graders.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:52 pm to
But, since we're bringing up the median. Would it be asking to much after 37 pages for the OP to fricking fix their thread title!!
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:53 pm to
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fricking fix their thread title


There is nothing wrong with the thread title.

You're being a nitpick if you think referring to a median as an average is wrong.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:54 pm to
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There is nothing wrong with the thread title.

You're being a nitpick if you think referring to a median as an average is wrong.

OK. Maybe I'm drunk but I'm pretty certain the thread title says Medium when it means Median.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:54 pm to
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thread title says Medium when it means Median.


Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1797 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 10:46 pm to
They are all measures of centers. Not averages. Mean is average. Jesus Christ.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 10:49 pm to
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They are all measures of centers. Not averages. Mean is average. Jesus Christ.


Look, I think he's being nitpicky and we all know what we mean when we say average................but, he's not technically wrong.

Types of Averages
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41749 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 11:11 pm to
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The CPI adjusted median price in 2006 (the peak before the crash) was around $340k. Now it’s around $420k.


I am comparing what I paid for my first house in 2011 to what I would pay for the exact same house in 2025.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 11:28 pm to
Right. You’re comparing the trough after 2008 to today.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41749 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 11:39 pm to
Guess I got lucky.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 11:48 pm to
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They are all measures of centers. Not averages.


Wrong.

A mode is an average. A mean is an average.

This is stuff elementary school kids are tested on. Do better.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23224 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 12:11 am to
There's still plenty of vinyl flooring and synthetic surfaces being used, they're just made to look like wood or stone. That's kind of a weird thing to have become such a big focus of this thread, though.

I do wonder about the larger square footage demand. Anecdotally, any teardowns I see in my area get replaced with much larger, more expensive homes, pricing out starter families like the same neighborhoods originally served. Census numbers seem to demonstrate that, too, with population numbers in trendy areas staying pretty flat despite new construction.

I read an article showing that Inner-Loop Houston, for instance, is hovering around the same population as it did in the 1950's, despite the construction of more high rises and townhomes in place of single-family residences.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 5:30 am to
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Glad we can agree on a median being an average
No nitwit. Sorry I missed this BS yesterday, but that is not the context in which you made the claim.

A poster cautioned against conflating medians and averages (means). Your response "median IS an average," implied there is no difference between the two, even after he was cautioning readers here to recognize the difference.

Perhaps you were attempting to be cute?
If so, you should have simply acknowledged your comment was an attempt at humor, and moved on. Instead, you followed it with a dumb response to me, and others.

The poster was specific in his terminology, using the term "average" as contradistinct from "median." His specific reference to "averages" had nothing to do with means of averaging. It had to do with averages as means, which in turn is a terrible measure of societal wealth.
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1797 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 6:46 am to
You didn’t graduate HS did you.

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