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re: The media is freaking out over the three million illegally voted comments

Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:10 pm to
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I have no doubt in my mind that illegals vote


This should be an outrage to even the BamaSJW types.

But, it isn't. I wonder why. Wait, I know why...
Posted by GeorgeWest
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:10 pm to
It is an idiotic charge (3-5 million illegal voters in 2016) and most sane people recognize it as such. But Trump's "Ministry of Propaganda" continues with the big lie.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:11 pm to


Hang in there, little guy.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22061 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:12 pm to
When you include dead people the number is closer to 8 million illegal votes.
Posted by Hog Zealot
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Member since Mar 2012
1785 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:12 pm to
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Thats because our Commander in Chief is a stupid liar that lies for no reason.


No. That guy left a few days ago.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:14 pm to
I would agree with that for sure, as that is what they do, focus on what is not necessarily the issue, but derail it to some other issue and not that the claim of illegals voting actually happened and has happened before.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:14 pm to
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Thats because our Commander in Chief is a stupid liar that lies for no reason.


So your solution was to vote for Hillary?

This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

focus on what is not necessarily the issue,


well I could say the same for Trump

why he is concerned about this...he won

just point to the scoreboard
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:17 pm to
Questioning whether 3 million people illegally voted is like questioning whether 10 million people will break a traffic law on the way home today. There's no need to waste time proving such foregone conclusions.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66097 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:17 pm to
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no idea why that triggers some of you all so much



Im not triggered at all.

too busy winning.

just stating that it happened and its a fact. I don't need an exact number. 1 would be too many IMO.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:17 pm to
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How about trump just say "what difference does it even make" when confronted with a "lie." Would that make you feel better?


well...Trump did do this with the taxes

Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:18 pm to
Did he lie? Or decline to show them

Hillary was proven to be a bald face liar and didn't even GAF. The left thinks trump is similar and hold it against him but not her.

Can we just stop pretending this whole thing is about anything more than political preference, there is no moral high ground here.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51403 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:19 pm to
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where did the 3 mil number come from?

It´s an off the cuff extrapolation.

Using 2008 voting percentage, and using 2015 ´census´, you could make a solid point for the floor being at slightly under 2M.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86177 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:20 pm to
he said he would show them when the audit was done

but now that he won he basically said "what difference does it make" because he won and nobody cares

so yeah...he lied

I don't care, just thought it was funny that you used that as an example
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

in that regard, it doesn't matter

all I'm saying is that the
quote:

media is going to ask where you get a number from when you state a specific number



quote:

well I could say the same for Trump

w
quote:

hy he is concerned about this
...he won

just point to the scoreboard


You are getting close. You have a pretty good perception most of the time, but I think you are missing the point here in my opinion. Is it dumb? Yes. But it's effective. I think it is all just a distraction. I've heard a lot this week about what Trump has claimed, but very little from the MSM about what he has been doing.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3876 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:22 pm to
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where did the 3 mil number come from?


This study says the total of illegals voting in 2008 was as high as 2.8 million.

LINK
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:23 pm to
Funny?

I didn't defend trump, I used an example of Hillary being a liar.

You brought up the tax example which I didn't defend, I simply asked if he lied.

Edit: originally I did use an example of if trump said "what difference did it make" before editing to that picture of Hillary. You are correct in that.
Point still stands that in the end it's all about political preference, we have (on both sides) a double standard in how we attacked the candidates. Cruiserhog hates trump because of his policies not because he is a "liar," if that weren't the case how could he justify voting for Hillary. Yes you could say similar about my stance towards Hillary
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:24 pm to
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But it's effective. I think it is all just a distraction. I
Is this what we want though? A President making unsupported self-serving claims (to say he win the popular vote) to serve as a distraction, rather than actually focusing on an issue, even the issue at hand based in facts?

I get it during the campaign, but I thought we were going to get a president who focused on substantive things, not purposeful distractions and conjecture.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
86177 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:24 pm to
thank you

wish I could actually read it, but thanks for actually providing a reasonable answer
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
3702 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:25 pm to
Thank you for the facts and links. A rare occurrence on this board.
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