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re: The manifesto was meant to stay hidden & be scrubbed from the internet

Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:33 am to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:33 am to
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I'll let the shooter hopefully answer your question


What platform was that on?

And with all of the surveillance that the government has, now does this not somehow get flagged?
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:37 am to
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The Contagion Effect is real, and the over-promotion of Trans.


Fixed it for you. Trans is just a contagion effect similar to how other mental health issues blew up over the years.

Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3153 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:36 am to
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There are real effects, and this shooting is an example of how. The Contagion Effect is real, and the over-promotion of Sandy Hook was the spark that lit this kid's psychosis way back in 2012.
Yeah, it's called being a trans martyr who slaughters children, and here lately, Christian children. Transgenderism is the contagion effect. We're talking about children without a fully developed brain being force fed this shite.
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However, promoting "dangerous" ideas in society that will lead to negative externalities
But that's not why they have scrubbed these manifestos (and tried to scrub this one). Stop it. What an idiotic take. They couldn't care less about promoting dangerous ideas that leads to negative externalities, otherwise they wouldn't push depraved shite like trans ideology on them: That is the negative externality and why parents will be burying their children yet again. These are incels/femcel children who are emboldened by adults to make statistically verifiable poor choices. They scrub it because they don't want to lose the plot, not because they give a shite about White Christian children being murdered (if nothing else, it's a positive outcome for their gun control tropes).

The truth is always the best disinfectant. It's becoming quite clear that the trans/nonbinary incels/femcels are a re-make of the Columbine era type mass shooters. Put the truth out there so these threats to society can be dealt with. Their satanic death cult wants the children, and if they can't have them, they'll take them for good. The public must know where to find these cretins and what to look for, and releasing their pitiful little worn out ideas via "manifestos" is not going to create more problems. They need to have the spotlight put on their idealogy, and be put under a microscope. No matter how badly they want to suppress the truth of the matter, enough is enough, and that cat is out of the bag.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109735 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:50 am to
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Yes, it's all voluntary (no federal statute) - a mix of journalists, law enforcement, victim-advocacy groups, and tech platforms following voluntary guidelines (professional ethics codes for journalists, platform rules, and campaign pressure by families - e.g. "no notoriety" campaign by parents of an Aurora theater victim. As you say, the rationale is based on evidence of copycat risk and the desire to prevent perpetrators from achieving the fame they often crave.


Why aren't these "guidelines" published, known, and readily avialable to the media consuming public?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11528 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:06 pm to
Good question. The guidelines aren’t hidden and are published by groups like the No Notoriety campaign, the Society of Professional Journalists, and associations for LEOs. BUT they’re written for professionals, so they live in style guides, ethics codes, and white-papers most people never go looking for. That’s why they don’t feel “public,” even though they’re technically out there. In our noisy information ecosystem, sensational stories ("eating the pets") spread while the boring-but-important documents about how to cover them barely get noticed. So it looks like secrecy, but more just the mismatch between what gets amplified and what gets buried.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:15 pm to
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tell us the shadowy forces!


If the media truly had a “no notoriety” ideal they were trying to follow, they’re absolute shite at it. They’ll all chase clicks and impressions through the detritus of this story.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11528 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:17 pm to
Who would be surprised if the media was bad at its job?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:18 pm to
No.

But their No Notoriety guidelines should focus on not amplifying the story to begin with. Not managing silly details of the story.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:21 pm to
You’ve become Wile E. Coyote, falling off cliffs in every thread.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 12:21 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466921 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:21 pm to
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tell us the shadowy forces!


He doesn't even really disagree with the policy, generally speaking

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No one should read that.

His body should be stripped nude.

His genitals cut off and shoved in his mouth.

And he should be hung upside down in downtown Minneapolis.

His name should never be uttered again. His family should be forced to go into hiding and never heard from again.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11528 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:22 pm to
the amount of info represented by professional journalism that adheres to codes is relatively less and less all the time (think of the "we're the media now" meme). It's a jungle out there now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466921 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:22 pm to
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. Trans is just a contagion effect similar to how other mental health issues blew up over the years.


Sure, I don't necessarily disagree, but trans shite has very little to do with this situation
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170709 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:23 pm to
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If the media truly had a “no notoriety” ideal they were trying to follow, they’re absolute shite at it. They’ll all chase clicks and impressions through the detritus of this story.

Yeah it certainly wouldn't get the amount of coverage it's getting

Every major news publication has multiple online articles about the dude

If no notoriety is an official policy it doesn't seem very apparent that anyone follows this policy. Ever.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466921 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:24 pm to
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Yeah, it's called being a trans martyr

No. That statement in no way reflects anything about this story.

That applies to the Nashville shooting, so it happens, but not here.

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But that's not why they have scrubbed these manifestos

That's exactly why they have scrubbed these manifestos.

Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11528 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:24 pm to
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His name should never be uttered again. His family should be forced to go into hiding and never heard from again.


Like with a lot of these policies, people very often agree with them in principle but often differ on who they trust to enforce them.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125551 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:25 pm to
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the amount of info represented by professional journalism that adheres to codes is relatively less and less all the time (think of the "we're the media now" meme). It's a jungle out there now.


So which organizations are good representatives of your no notoriety ideal?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109735 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:29 pm to
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Like with a lot of these policies, people very often agree with them in principle but often differ on who they trust to enforce them.


Right, which makes it interesting to observe which types of information gets readily disseminated and which tends to go poof.

Absent clear consistent readily available guidelines, I’m always gonna be a bit troubled with the going poof part.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11528 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:30 pm to
No one is consistently good, so it’s less about one “perfect” organization and more about how well the norm gets applied. After the Aurora shooting, some Colorado outlets like the Denver Post shifted focus from the shooter to the victims and community. Big journalism like AP & NPR experimented with limiting name use or avoiding front-page photos unless necessary. Even police briefings sometimes follow the same pattern - mention once, then move on.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23151 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:31 pm to

The only reason the Coulter Law didn’t hold is that people grabbed evidence before it vanished.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125551 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:32 pm to
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Like with a lot of these policies, people very often agree with them in principle but often differ on who they trust to enforce them.


I would love for them to follow an actual no notoriety protocol. Not one where they hide the details that they’re embarrassed about and amplify the ones that they think help progressivism.

90% of all these school/public shootings are driven by an actual desire for notoriety. If they quit feeding them oxygen, the fire would die down. The media can’t do that anymore than the media can vote for a Republican.
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