re: The maga kids vs native american story just got more complicated.

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The point is that it's so fricking long ago it doesn't matter. This "native" bullshite is exactly that.

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Don’t go moving the goalpost now baw

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Doesn't matter... to my point:

-We'll go back to Europe when they go back to NE Asia, or
-We'll go back to Europe when they go back to Europe.

Either way they don't get to stay here on their high horse.

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Doesn't matter... to my point:

-We'll go back to Europe when they go back to NE Asia, or
-We'll go back to Europe when they go back to Europe.

Either way they don't get to stay here on their high horse.

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Why not? They were the first people here. "We" were second, third, fourth, whatever. And now people are trying to come here after us, and you don't want them here either, right?

If not the first settlers, then which group should have the most right to the land?

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Why not? They were the first people here. "We" were second, third, fourth, whatever. And now people are trying to come here after us, and you don't want them here either, right? If not the first settlers, then which group should have the most right to the land?

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They should have built a wall and an army. To the victor goes the spoils. We were living in an imperial world and we were an imperial girl. We showed injuns our knuckles baw. Because of that you have a global platform to virtue signal about how 400 years ago White Man Bad.

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White people from Europe showed up here long before any from NE Asia.
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Bering Strait Land Bridge my man-

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There is lots of evidence that people from Western Europe were here before the bering strait people arrived.

The well known "clovis point' has its first appearance in the Virginia area and is a dead ringer for arrow head design in use in the Atlantic coast of Europe. in an era prior to the 12000 bc version of the Clovis point found in New Mexico.

Big question is what happened to the Clovis point people who lived in the Virginia area. - Severe climate change is the primary culprit - seems like global warming to me - too many campfires. .

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Few if any archaeologists—or, for that matter, geneticists, linguists, or physical anthropologists—take seriously the idea of a Solutrean colonization of America."[7] The evidence for the hypothesis is considered more consistent with other scenarios. In addition to an interval of thousands of years between the Clovis and Solutrean eras, the two technologies show only incidental similarities. There is no evidence for any Solutrean seafaring, far less for any technology that could take humans across the Atlantic in an ice age. Recent genetic evidence supports the idea of Asian, not European, origins for the peopling of the Americas

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Ooph literally your entire link just explains why the theory is bullshite

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I have kept up with this theory for a number of years now, since I first became aware of it on the History/Science channels some time back.

In my recollection these peoples were not 'sea-faring' at all. They were coastal fishermen who just kept foraging farther and farther westward along the seashore created by the various ice ages. Just continue to creep westward until they eventually arrived in North America and then were stranded by the sea level rise at the end of the ice ages.

They were incapable of 'sea-faring' their way back to Europe - even if the concept of 'europe' still existed after the 10s of thousands of year since their ancestral departure.

This original culture was completely destroyed by the invaders from Asia.

I actually seen a theory that Ive never heard purposed about human life originating in the Americas. It is speculated that all of the continental land masses were joined together in what we know as Pangaea. It purposed that Atlantis was located on what is now parts of North America and that Native Americans are decendants of Atlantians as well as descendants of the first humans. The theory supports Plato’s claims about Atlantis as well as how modern civilization came to be and where we are headed. I found it very interesting and it is further proof that we have been mislead about how the world as we know it came to be. I understand that it is just a theory but it made me have questions about what I previously thought was facts on human existence.

The Hidden History of Humanity

All the stupid fricks in the other thread.

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If not the first settlers, then which group should have the most right to the land?

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"the land"?

So if one person sets foot on North America they just get the whole thing to themselves?

When the Europeans arrived America was mostly unsettled. You can cling to that all you want, but it still leaves 95% of America wide open for other people to settle.

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Ooph literally your entire link just explains why the theory is bull shite

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How can you put much credibility in any of those "facts" after the fiasco by the Clinton Administration when those ancient Caucasian bones were found on an Indian reservation, he refused permission to have them studied.
Politics vs Science aren't compatible with truth.