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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing

Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:22 am to
Posted by somethingdifferent
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:22 am to
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We've been living with the threat of Islamic terrorism for decades and will continue to live with it whatever happens in Iran. It's not a reason to put boots on the ground or even to escalate


"We have this problem that requires our intervention but we don't need to intervene"

Well that makes a ton of sense
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:23 am to
These idiots have managed to put me and Powerman on the same side of an issue.

So that's an accomplishment
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:25 am to
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You do realize that you're also describing Israel right?



Except that I'm not. There are approximately 1.7 million Muslims willingly living, working and engaging in their religion in Israel, they can leave at any time. There are over 10x mosques in Israel than there are synagogues in a country like Iran.

The tolerance level of others between Israel and a government run by radical Muslims are vastly different. Comparing Israel's tolerance level to that of Nazi Germany or a country run by radical Islamists is ignorant, at best.

quote:

If Muslims were anywhere near as problematic as Nazi Germany and there are 2 billion of them the world would be a much different place than it is now.


You seem to have missed my differentiation between Muslims and radical Islam. I'm talking about the latter, not the former.
Posted by wareaglepete
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:25 am to
Yeah, lots of odd alliances in this thread. But it happens when you rationally look at each issue and don’t live by the party line.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:25 am to
Blue is a better color than teal.

That's a fact!

Nobody can refute my facts!!!
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1692 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:25 am to
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And it's honestly not that much of a threat


WOW

un-fricking-believable how naive you people are

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When is the last time there was an attack of any significance? 911 was 24 years ago.
"We had this horrific, unprecedented attack that killed thousands of Americans in America but, it was a couple of decades ago so, we definitely can let our guard down"

"That sort of thing every couple of decades is completely acceptable so that we don't appear to be bullies or spend a bunch of money"

You can't be reasoned with on this topic
Posted by wareaglepete
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:26 am to
Why do we have to intervene? Why can’t Israel handle business?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1692 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:27 am to
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Esquire
My position on Islamic terrorism has never changed. I never made any sort of comments on Trump's foreign policy regarding this topic and couldn't care less about his stupid campaign promises. I want Islamic terrorism eradicated from the face of the Earth and I'm not particularly picky about how we get it done.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:27 am to
"intervene" is a doing a lot of work there, baw.

there are lots of ways to intervene short of getting involved in a middle-eastern war.
Posted by wareaglepete
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Member since Dec 2012
17700 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:27 am to
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Blue is a better color than teal. That's a fact!


Are you dumb or something? I’ve said all along red is the best color and if you can’t see that, you’re being naive.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1692 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:28 am to
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Nope
Let me guess, you think it's been 99 years or some stupid bullcrap
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:30 am to
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These idiots have managed to put me and Powerman on the same side of an issue.


The move from "the anti war party" to full blown neocon took a week.

Pretty impressive!
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1692 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:30 am to
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Probably


There's these people in the desert and they are constantly trying to attack America or American interests. They constantly kill civilians and we know that they coordinate with state sponsors

BUT IT'S UNLIKELY THEY HAVE ANY INTENT TO ACQUIRE A NUCLEAR BOMB

wow
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:30 am to
quote:

These idiots have managed to put me and Powerman on the same side of an issue.

So that's an accomplishment




Real.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3642 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:30 am to
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THEY HATE ANYONE WHO IS NOT MUSLIM.
This is exactly right. In the muslim world view, you either submit/convert or you die. Not all that different than how liberals feel toward those they disagree with. Except the liberals don't have the courage to do it themselves.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 10:32 am
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:30 am to
You're getting your war man. You can relax now, it's coming. The President of the United States agrees with you. As does Israel the MIC and every politician in Washington who's bankrolled by both.

I yield to you.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17700 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:31 am to
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I want Islamic terrorism eradicated from the face of the Earth and I'm not particularly picky about how we get it done.


To think that is something that can be accomplished is extremely naive. All you’ll do going over there is create more. We had a 20 year war on terror and an act that craps all over your privacy, and they are still around.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11530 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:32 am to
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The move from "the anti war party" to full blown neocon took a week.

Pretty impressive!


And if the Ayatollah buys enough Trumpcoin they could be back to anti-war party by next week.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298085 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:33 am to
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There's these people in the desert and they are constantly trying to attack America or American interests.


According to MiC propaganda, sure.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86131 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:36 am to
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You are making my argument for me. Continue to fight these battles over there before they get here. And the argument isn't just about dollars, as you are implying


This doesn't make sense. Most of our losses from Iranian proxies and terrorism occurred years, decades ago. For Israel it's a different story - but we're not Israel.

That's not to say we haven't been targeted by Iranian-backed terror interests, but the impacts have been pretty minimal. Our most recent major engagement came from us settling those decades-old scores.

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