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re: The left's current position summed up in one quote
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:24 pm to cahoots
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:24 pm to cahoots
Thats pretty much the Trumpsucker MO around here. Create strawman lib positions, attribute to all libs, proceed to bash strawman and jerk off other Trumpsuckers. Repeat.
For the record the statement in the OP is garbage. Hate speech should remain free. Period.
For the record the statement in the OP is garbage. Hate speech should remain free. Period.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 7:32 pm
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Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:26 pm to mule74
quote:That is one confused individual. "I believe in free speech as long as I like what they are saying" .... isn't freedom at all.
“I think as a country you have a right to free speech,” said Boston resident Beth Chandler, “but there’s a difference to me with hateful speech and free speech. And a lot of what the separatists are saying is hateful speech and there’s not a place for that in our country.” “
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:27 pm to mule74
quote:I remember as a kid that Liberals were the ones fighting for the KKK's right to hold rally's and the like. The real liberals used to say "I don't agree with them, but I'll fight for their right to say it."
When I was a kid I remember seeing a KKK rally on TV news and
Today's liberals aren't about liberty. They are about authoritarianism. That's a shame.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:28 pm to cahoots
quote:
but the views of the pro-Trump white supremicists don't represent the right
How stupid does that sound in your head when you realize one of Trump's most trusted advisors is a Jew and one he let marry his oldest daughter?
White supremicist are not accepted at all by anyone in the mainstream of a conservative party. They are also truly fringe and a small group. They would basically fade into small obscure existence if the left leaning media and the left leaning political parties weren't trying to constantly stoke division among the country for political and financial gain.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:34 pm to cahoots
quote:Nope. Leftists have widely been trying to silence "hate speech" for decades. And they've managed install censorship on many college campuses and within many corporations already.
So one person's views "sum up" the left's current position
quote:Nope. There's no wide call for implementation of white supremacy. There is no one implementing "white supremacy" in any organized manner.
but the views of the pro-Trump white supremicists don't represent the right?
There is no equivalency here.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:38 pm to lctiger
quote:
So is calling someone a racist or neo nazi not considered being hateful??? I'm so confused
Uhhh...I decided to edit my post with a bunch of hate filled shite, but decided to bug out.
"Nothing's gonna change my world"
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:40 pm to lctiger
quote:Right. The constant false accusations of leftists, could easily be described as "hate speech". Trump should move to outlaw it. Anyone comfortable with that?
So is baselesslysmewring someone by calling someone a racist or neo nazi not considered being hateful?
I'm not
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:53 pm to lctiger
quote:
So is calling someone a racist or neo nazi not considered being hateful??? I'm so confused
I guess it's like the "N" word...only the liberal media can use those words
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:14 pm to cahoots
When were people clamoring to take down stauteus a decade ago?
Open your eyes, cahoots.
Open your eyes, cahoots.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:20 pm to cahoots
quote:
So one person's views "sum up" the left's current position, but the views of the pro-Trump white supremicists don't represent the right?
This would almost be a fair criticism had you left out the pro-Trump part. But you just can't help yourself. It all boils down to sore losing.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:23 pm to cahoots
quote:Why prosecute when you can simply let your thugs threaten it to the point that it's not allowed to even take place? And then, the government gets to look away and do nothing about it.
Link to where anyone is being prosecuted for hate speech?
I don't have to arrest you to prevent your speech. I can simply say "if X group gets violently attacked, I won't stop it, but if Y group gets attacked, I'm calling in the national guard".
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:26 pm to mule74
Free speech is relative to the government, not other citizens. A lot of you guys seem to have a basic misunderstanding of this basic premise. If the public spurns you for your speech, that is not an infringement on your first amendment rights. You have no right to be free from public disapproval.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:28 pm to TxTiger82
quote:Do you have the right to not be threatened with violence or physically attacked for exercising your right to free speech?
You have no right to be free from public disapproval
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:33 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:Liberals whining in this thread. Stop me when I'm wrong.
Today's liberals aren't about liberty. They are about authoritarianism. That's a shame.
1. I've been told by virtually every leftist in the media that there is zero equivalence between ANTIFA and the Nazis because ANTIFA opposes NAZIS and Nazis are horrible.
2. Virtually every liberal has taken the position that "free speech doesn't guarantee you a platform" which they say even in cases where people are INVITED to speak.
3. Now, they're telling us that canceling for "security concerns" is valid and besides, if you gripe about it, you're "defending or siding with Nazis"
4. They just spent a year and a half calling approximately 60 million Americans Nazi sympathizers for supporting Trump and when he got elected, the quadrupled down on that.
So. As someone who did support Trump, what 1 through 4 tell me is that the left considers me a completely valid target and at the least, I don't really deserve any significant effort to protect me from violent mobs. In fact, when those mobs threaten, it's totally valid to just cancel me or my event.
And, they think that if I say, "well fine, I'll arm myself and hold my event anyway" that NOW, I'm equally at fault cause I"m "looking for violence" too.
You're damned right. I want the violent mobs massacred. IF the government isn't going to protect its citizens and will arrest those citizens for trying to protect themselves, the only answer is the complete elimination of the problem.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:34 pm to ShortyRob
Conservatives whine more than anyone. This entire thread is basically whining.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:36 pm to TxTiger82
quote:
Conservatives whine more than anyone. This entire thread is basically whining.
If violent mobs were preventing minorities from speaking, would you say the minorities were whining when the govt took the "oh well, sucks to be you" position?
Somehow, I doubt it.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:37 pm to TxTiger82
quote:
Conservatives whine more than anyone.
Who is trying to tear down inanimate objects because they're "offended"? This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:38 pm to Taxing Authority
This board is overrun with conservatives whining. Listen to yourselves.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:41 pm to TxTiger82
quote:
Conservatives whine more than anyone. This entire thread is basically whining.
You are a fricking clown. You people want to bitch and moan 24/7 but when someone has a different opinion your response is never of substance.
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