re: The left keeps saying we cannot imprison our way out of crime.

bullshite baffles brains. Can’t believe people on here still think violent crime is “complicated” and “nuanced” and have compassion for these pieces of shite, despite that experiment failing over the past 50 years.
You’d think they care more about the criminals than the victims. It’s deranged.

Shocked. Shocked I tell you!

Do You dignify every absurd post made to you with a response?

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Murder, raped and assault is far more inhumane. You have to side with the criminal or the victim. It can’t be both. Why do people like you always choose the criminal to defend?

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This person is claiming that advocating for the humane treatment of individuals in State custody is equivalent to being for criminals and against victims. This lazy binary thinking doesn’t get anyone anywhere.

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Take violent offenders off the street and keep them off the street .

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The whole premise of this thread is outrage that this doesn’t happen.

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This isn't an academic exercise. It's simple logic

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Precisely.

I like it. Gladiator games could be entertaining.

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Haha, so you’re saying a higher perception of being caught deters crime?

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No. That's what the research says. And it's not controversial or contested by anyone mainstream. Look it up and see for yourself.

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Even for a slap on the wrist, or a reduced sentence?

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Yes, that is the case. Of course, you are correct in that repeated incarceration does have the effect of muting the fear of being caught. Once people learn how to survive in prison they apparently lose their fear of it. Chalk up one more reason to try to minimize incarceration.

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Ask the father of that 6 year old that was violently murdered in his own home how fairly justice was distributed.

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This is an incoherent sentence blabbered out as an attempt at an emotional appeal. It's useless in a logical discussion.

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You think the guy who catches his spouse cheating on him is more likely to premeditate murder in that situation if he gets 10 years or the electric chair?

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Another fairly illiterate sentence, but I don't think a guy who catches his wife with another man is more likely to engage in premeditated murder either way. That's the classic non-premeditated crime of passion example.

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Bleeding heart libtards like yourself don’t live in reality and you’re pulling stats out of your arse.

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Idiot macho internet warriors like yourself live in trailer parks and wouldn't be able to read stats if someone showed them to you.

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I’m sure you got that talking point from BlueSky, Reddit or some other grungy Antifa forum on the internet.

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Why don't you Google the research and see what comes up? See for yourself? You won't have to look hard. Which is exactly why you won't do it...you know what you'll find.

Finally, I'm almost certainly more conservative than you are, and I'm definitely less emotional than you are.

I don't think making public policy based on feels and emotions typically leads to good outcomes. You apparently do. That's a liberal trait, not a conservative one.

It's also a populist trait, however, which is almost certainly what you are.

I suggest you wack off three times and get a clue because you’re pissing in the wind.
You don’t care about victims of thuggery and violence? Then nobody gives a frick about your opinion. Why are you even commenting?

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You don’t care about victims of thuggery and violence?

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I don't care about people I don't know, have never met, and never will meet, and neither do you. This is you (again) attempting to make an emotional appeal to argue from a moral high ground instead of making an intelligent argument about policy.

Do I care about crime in America in a general, theoretical sense? Sure, or I wouldn't bother to post about it. You are the one who cares more about feeding your own feelings for revenge than actually doing something that would get results for the potential victims of thuggery and violence.

It's more important to you to feed your own emotional needs than it is to figure out an effective solution. Which is why you cling to ineffective ones that have been shown over and over to be ineffective.

Quit being a woman just catering to your emotions and be a man who can set emotions aside long enough to solve a problem. Either that or change your name to KAREN-DAWG.

Ahhh, so clever. And speak for yourself, because I do care about people in my community that get murdered. Like Laken Riley, murdered in a park where my girlfriend used to walk our dog.
I have sympathy for people that suffer. That’s what it means to belong to a community and be a human being.
I’m sorry you’re a sociopath. That must be lonely.

As far as emotions go, this is the internet and a place to rant. This keeps your emotions in check in real life where stoicism matters more, so get off your high horse and just take the L.