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re: The lawyer arguing in favor of the US government is incompetent
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:22 pm to Northwestern tiger
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:22 pm to Northwestern tiger
quote:Aren't you the chicago libtard that was on here all the time during the primary rooting for trump big time because you thought you would easily beat him?
Northwestern tiger
How'd that turn out?
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:22 pm to Jim Rockford
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I guess if someone was really unprepared or had absolutely nothing coherent to say, it might lose the case for them.
Obama's solicitor general totally fricked up the ObamaCare case once and he still won because Roberts decided to be concerned about an image that he did not need to be worried about.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:22 pm to someoneBEE
Obama lawyers losing on purpose?
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:23 pm to Northwestern tiger
I think this hack was an Obama stooge
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Aren't you the chicago libtard that was on here all the time during the primary rooting for trump big time because you thought you would easily beat him?
How'd that turn out?
No i voted for him in the primaries.
Then after all the stories start to come out, i thought he was a fraud, he didn't meant what he said., and I thought he had zero chance of winning. I was wrong on both.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:27 pm to Northwestern tiger
Found a picture of the attorney, August E. Flentje:
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:27 pm to Northwestern tiger
Yep....but I think Trump and most people with a brain know that whatever the decision of the 9th, it would be appealed, so tank it and let the Supremes make the definitive say.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:29 pm to Northwestern tiger
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The judge question "do you have any evidence implicating these countries in terrorism?" he started blabbering about nothing
He should have told the judge it's not the judges job to evaluate the threat, it's his job to decide if the president can issue this order based on the presidents evaluation of the threat
(Hint: it is)
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:30 pm to Iosh
The real questions should be why are these judges questioning evidence and the judgement of the president. Argue the law or constitutionality, but asking questions about terrorists or past actions is ridiculous.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:31 pm to Northwestern tiger
Reply should have been :
The previous administration felt there was enough of a threat to put these 7 countries on a terror list.
The previous administration felt there was enough of a threat to put these 7 countries on a terror list.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:32 pm to Iosh
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he's a 20-year career employee who got dropped in at the last minute (which is looking like a bad call)
Typical government employee lifer who is incompetent?
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:34 pm to Jwho77
At least the judge is being slightly hostile back to the State, but now playing softball.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:36 pm to KosmoCramer
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It's a debate about the ability of the Judicial branch to override the explicit authority of the executive branch spelled out in the US Constitution.
If this was actually the question at issue the DOJ would be toast. Be glad it isn't.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:38 pm to CorporateTiger
quote:
If this was actually the question at issue the DOJ would be toast. Be glad it isn't.
Elaborate. Show your work.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:38 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Trump has law on his side but it doesn't come directly from the Constitution.
It's a debate about the ability of the Judicial branch to override the explicit authority of the executive branch spelled out in the US Constitution.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:39 pm to Northwestern tiger
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The lawyer arguing in favor of the US government is incompetent
A career lawyer from the DOJ that was in the same pool of lawyers that couldn't find enough evidence to prosecute Hillary? Hard to believe.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:40 pm to Jwho77
If they didn't put specific terrorism allegations in the record at the district court, Atticus Finch himself couldn't get this TRO stayed
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:42 pm to Iosh
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specific terrorism allegations
Why is this a burden? Is the Executive Branch not allowed to determine what is a threat and what is not? How is the judicial branch qualified to determine security threats?
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:43 pm to KosmoCramer
The Constitution does not give the President unlimited authority over immigration. The courts have traditionally been VERY deferential of the Executive when it comes to immigration, but that does not mean that the authority is unlimited.
As an example of the President tried to deny citizens access to the country (or green card holders) then they would have a due process claim.
In any event the judiciary can take up a case on the constitutionality of an EO. The courts took up DACA and DAPA. Where the courts take up a case they may, in their discretion, issue a TRO. That happened to both DAPA and DACA.
I've said multiple times the EO is constitutional. That isn't at issue here though.
As an example of the President tried to deny citizens access to the country (or green card holders) then they would have a due process claim.
In any event the judiciary can take up a case on the constitutionality of an EO. The courts took up DACA and DAPA. Where the courts take up a case they may, in their discretion, issue a TRO. That happened to both DAPA and DACA.
I've said multiple times the EO is constitutional. That isn't at issue here though.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 5:44 pm
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