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re: The Killer Pandemic of 1968

Posted on 5/16/20 at 5:39 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17878 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 5:39 pm to
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I think 100k died in the United States from this virus over two years.

We will have 100k deaths shortly and it will have taken 4 months.


There really won't be much of a difference in the end. The vast majority of Hong Kong flu deaths occurred in the first few months after the outbreak gained its momentum. Just like COVID.

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Look, this isn't the end of the world. I'm with you. But that really was a bad flu.



Consider population differences and the Hong Kong flu was in the same ballpark as Wuhan.

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This thing is something different and it's crazy that many people have it and never develop symptoms. A fraction of people get really sick and a fraction of those die.

But this can infect just about anyone whereas and can burn through a community rapidly.

There are dramatic differences.


No doubt there are differences, but the question is how much those differences really matter. It's hard to make the case Wuhan is extraordinarily difficult right after mentioning that a clear majority of those that catch it barely notice or never notice.

If I'm not mistaken, the profile of Hong Kong Flu fatalities was very similar to what we're seeing with COVID - old people with serious underlying health issues.
Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 5:52 pm to
Health care is magnitudes better today than in 1968.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2465 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:09 pm to
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Health care is magnitudes better today than in 1968.


The health care in the 1st 2 months of covid was no different from what they could do in 1968. Tylenol, prone, oxygen. The difference today is that treatments and vaccines can be developed faster. We can see that now. When was the last report of a healthy person dying? Doctors use the limited amounts of the effective treatments on healthy people over the 400 pounders and 90 year olds. Treatments will become even more available as production ramps up. Do we hit 70 per 100k? If not, covid lines up with an average flu before 1940.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:12 pm to
I caught in early 1970 and came as close to dying as possible but survived. Was deathly ill for over 3 weeks and never went to a doctor. No one had health insurance then and people my age didn't go to doctors much. It threw my finishing school off and I lost the GI bill over it since I couldn't go to class but other a that...just a memory. Have not had the flu since and religiously take the shot.
Posted by westide
Bamala
Member since Sep 2014
2882 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 6:46 pm to
I had the Hong Kong flu. Became delirious and starting speaking Chinese.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3205 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:39 pm to
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I think one huge difference was.... no internet in ‘68-69.


You forgot one other important fact... The media was neck deep in Vietnam...


Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12113 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:47 pm to
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Yes but the population back then was a much larger number than today. That is why the number of deaths were so much higher.


Uh, whut?
Posted by corneredbeast
02134
Member since Sep 2008
2164 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:16 pm to
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I remember the polio scare and was a child who received a vaccine from it.

That was a true pandemic.

Rabies has always been around or hydrophobia as it was called before my time.

People had to be put down if they caught it.

Imagine today if that was the case.

Ole yelled...


His name was UGA
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:22 pm to
Nobody gets my joke! Duh it had more fatalities even with a smaller population! But now we must bankrupt people for less.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31481 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 8:39 pm to


Racist article--only fat person is black.

Eta: and he isn't fat at all by today's standards.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
3077 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:18 pm to
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You forgot one other important fact... The media was neck deep in Vietnam...


I was in boot camp in San Diego in late 68 — no mention of the flu.

I was in Vietnam in 1969 — no mention of the flu.

I was in Okinawa and The Philippines in early 70 — no mention of the flu.

Never saw anyone with it.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19448 posts
Posted on 5/16/20 at 9:50 pm to
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My Dad had it in December 68, it was real bad. But it was a seasonal flu that we had seen before, there was some residual immunity, and we knew more how to deal with it. This one is novel, no immunity going in, we’re still trying to figure it all out.


That 50% or more of people who had the Wuhan virus have no symptoms tends to indicate that there may be some immunity factor going on that we just haven't isolated yet. There are a few coronaviruses that are part of the common cold. So maybe it comes from that. That would be nice to discover.

I don't remember much about the Hong Kong flu of 1968. I was more worried about STDs at the time.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 9:52 pm
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6419 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:13 am to
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I don't remember much about the Hong Kong flu of 1968. I was more worried about STDs at the time.


You dog, you.
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
19916 posts
Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:26 am to
My dad, now 77, had the Hong Kong Flu. He said it was the worst kind of sick he's ever experienced.

His words about it; "I didn't know whether I was coming or going".
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