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Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:32 pm to VoxDawg
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Deep State proxy state
Okay let’s go with that because that’s the likely goal.
Does that mean that proxy regime still needs to take charge?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:33 pm to Powerman
quote:If?
If these idiots are trading attacks what makes you think the strait is open?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:34 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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Which is a product of the fact we've decapitated them and now the midlevel are in charge of their own fiefdoms.
We've known that for weeks. The "interim" president has had open disagreements with the IRGC. The goat frickers on the ground are operating under standing orders for contingency, and they will only take orders from the IRGC, not Pezeshkian.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:47 pm to TrueTiger
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As long as Hormuz is open, tell Israel that we got what we want, you figure out the rest.
Agreed.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:50 pm to LegendInMyMind
Yeah like I said in another thread. Worst case it's an opportunity considering most of the population would love to escape their IRGC slave masters and the powers in play would be competitive crawling over that mountain of bodies we made to create this opportunity for them.
Chaos environment. Could be good. They weaken themselves.
Chaos environment. Could be good. They weaken themselves.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:00 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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Cease fire isn't going to work under that condition.
Will “a civilization” be wiped out tonight?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:04 pm to TBoy
I’m sorry you didn’t get your wish of thousands of innocent people dying.
Thankfully, for you, you can go back to your regularly scheduled programming of child sacrifice in the name of convenience.
Thankfully, for you, you can go back to your regularly scheduled programming of child sacrifice in the name of convenience.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 9:15 pm to Captain Rumbeard
In this day and age, you have to at least try a peaceful resolution before you obliterate half the nation.
Problem for Trump is he is fighting half the US that have some sort of mental complex about him and can’t see thing clearly.
I am going to guess this can gets kicked in perpetuity. Trump will not come strong again unless they fire at us.
I don’t think there is a chapter in Art of the Deal for dealing with non-reasonable, psychopathic killers. I feel like Don has set him self up not to get a deal because there is no deal to be had with these folks.
Best case outcome…they become a Chinese client state like North Korea. Without nukes. Just my opinion.
Problem for Trump is he is fighting half the US that have some sort of mental complex about him and can’t see thing clearly.
I am going to guess this can gets kicked in perpetuity. Trump will not come strong again unless they fire at us.
I don’t think there is a chapter in Art of the Deal for dealing with non-reasonable, psychopathic killers. I feel like Don has set him self up not to get a deal because there is no deal to be had with these folks.
Best case outcome…they become a Chinese client state like North Korea. Without nukes. Just my opinion.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:17 pm to HighlyFavoredTiger
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I’m shocked that Trump fell for this crap, he must be getting a lot of pressure from Republicans worried about the war affecting elections, he’s a smart man and it doesn’t take a genius to see how negotiating with other Muslim groups has worked for Israel in the past. They will never abide by a negotiated agreement, it’s just a way to stall and allow them time to do some recovery and get weapons shipments from China and Russia.
What do you think we didn't get?
This is just a cease fire. You realize that right? Negotiation is thus enabled to start now.
That's a plus under any metric.
Trump has amply proven he's willing to pound you to dust if need be.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:20 pm to Shaun176
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there is an actual split between the parliament and the IRGC, there is a good chance we can get the regular army to attack the IRGC and defeat them with our strikes.
I think the cease fire timeframe will be to see if the Iranians will rise up and oust the remnants of the regime and IRGC
Posted on 4/7/26 at 10:59 pm to deltaland
Honestly I think it's probably more like the Nazis. The people are completely cowed because they've all seen the brutality of these men first hand.
They have to rise. Or we will have to keep them primitive for a very long time to come.
They have to rise. Or we will have to keep them primitive for a very long time to come.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:06 pm to AlterEd
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This is the way.
Wait, “the way” is fomenting a completely unpredictable and uncontrollable civil war?
I knew your stance on the war was neocon, just not that neocon.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:08 pm to deltaland
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think the cease fire timeframe will be to see if the Iranians will rise up and oust the remnants of the regime and IRGC
Seems like an awesome plan. And when they don’t or it’s easily suppressed like every other time they’ve done anything?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:09 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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Negotiation is thus enabled to start now. That's a plus under any metric.
How is that a plus? We were negotiating prior to this waste of money.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:13 pm to Indefatigable
Not with them scared we're about to blow their economic brains out and in the air moving that way we haven't.
Look, you don't like it, but accept what just happened. We took their military into the mud and killed them
They blinked. Whoever "They" is.
We'll see if it's real shortly.
If it's not, then flame on.
Look, you don't like it, but accept what just happened. We took their military into the mud and killed them
They blinked. Whoever "They" is.
We'll see if it's real shortly.
If it's not, then flame on.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:14 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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They blinked.
In what way?
We stopped bombing them. What did they stop doing?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:15 pm to Indefatigable
Threatening the Straits.
Are you supposed to be up this late?
Are you supposed to be up this late?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:17 pm to Captain Rumbeard
They aren’t threatening them because we agreed to let them control the Strait entirely. What are you talking about? Even if there’s an actual ceasefire as reported—it’s worse than status quo ante
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