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Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:47 pm to Tiguar
quote:
Explain.
Prosecutorial discretion is making such choices as "I don't think I have enough evidence to convict" or "I'm going to let him slide on this law because he's willing to testify against this bigger fish."
It's not "I don't like this law so I'm just going to ignore it."
That's illegal...and should horrify anyone who follows the rule of law.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:48 pm to Tiguar
Also, answer this question in the process:
Was Comey ignoring the law when he gave his "no reasonable prosecutor" statement regarding HRC?
Why or why not?
Was Comey ignoring the law when he gave his "no reasonable prosecutor" statement regarding HRC?
Why or why not?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:48 pm to Centinel
quote:
going to let him slide on this law because he's willing to testify against this bigger fish."
Literally ignoring the law
I believe Obama said "we have bigger fish to fry" when asked if he would prosecute weed dispensaries. Does that make it ok? He compared it to a fish.
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:48 pm to Centinel
quote:
He simply said they were going to stop the official policy of ignoring federal drug laws as they pertain to marijuana.
Which is the correct answer.
Prosecutorial discretion still exists.
Then why say it?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:49 pm to McLemore
quote:
Then why say it?
Because the United States Attorney General should never have an official policy of ignoring federal statutes.
Seriously...can you not understand the problem here?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:51 pm to Tiguar
quote:Are you aware of the Obama Admin approach to DACA?
Explain.
Do you understand how badly that might have ended (and theoretically still could) for DACAs?
We have a Constitution for a purpose. AG's must follow it, for a purpose. If they don't, then citizens could get hurt . . . badly!
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:52 pm to Topcat
quote:
That's weak. The Congress makes the law, not the AG. If you want weed to be legal or states to say whether it is legal, pressure your Congressmen. We don't want the AG deciding which laws to enforce or not to enforce--that leads to inconsistency in enforcement and the lawlessness of the Obama administration. It allows the Justice Dept. to give Hillary a pass but to hammer Trump associates for lying about things that have nothing to do with Mueller's investigation. Congress, not Sessions, should decide what the law is. He just enforces it, whatever it is.
Very well said, while I favor decriminalization of pot this needs to be handled through congress to bring this issue to a close. We are a nation of laws and the recent trend of governing by fiat needs to come to an end.
I also hate most all EO's by both sides, they are chickenshit lazy cop outs.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:54 pm to cave canem
quote:+1
I favor decriminalization of pot this needs to be handled through congress
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:54 pm to NC_Tigah
Just make everything illegal and allow AGs to decide what to prosecute or not!
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:59 pm to TennesseeFan25
quote:Then why in the frick are you on a forum called "Political Talk"? Maybe you should just mumble at yourself from the corner.
rather than us, as I certainly don’t give a frick about your opinion
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:00 pm to Tiguar
The people who say that don't have the nuts to say that they are anti legalization
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:01 pm to Centinel
What difference does "official policy" make? He either wants to send a message or he doesn't. It was already there. Why frick with it? I know why--he's an obsolete breed of authoritarian cracker backwoods Alabama goatfricker with a tiny penis who wants to instill fear in freedom-loving Americans.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:01 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:You know damned well this is an over-simplification as no AG has EVER enforced all existing law.
the AG must enforce existing law
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:05 pm to lsufanz
Precisely my point. The meme is an intended oversimplification that sounds good in an attempt to hide either protrump or antiobama bias.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:17 pm to McLemore
quote:
What difference does "official policy" make? He either wants to send a message or he doesn't. It was already there. Why frick with it? I know why--he's an obsolete breed of authoritarian cracker backwoods Alabama goatfricker with a tiny penis who wants to instill fear in freedom-loving Americans.
Me and you are smokin with or without Jeff sessions
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:19 pm to Centinel
quote:
Prosecutorial discretion is making such choices as "I don't think I have enough evidence to convict" or "I'm going to let him slide on this law because he's willing to testify against this bigger fish."
It's not "I don't like this law so I'm just going to ignore it."
That's illegal...and should horrify anyone who follows the rule of law
X eleventy billion, amazing how some can not grasp how dangerous this is.
If I am a prosecutor can I ignore murder and rape statutes as well if I do not like them?
The pot has apparently destroyed all their brain cells.
the below is very clear
quote:
"I (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and
defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies,
foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to
the same; that I take this obligation freely without any mental
reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully
discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So
help me God."
This post was edited on 1/4/18 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:20 pm to lsufanz
quote:You know damned well this is an over-simplification, as the issue is Obama AGs' directives ordering subordinates to IGNORE the law!
You know damned well this is an over-simplification as no AG has EVER enforced all existing law.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:22 pm to Tiguar
Just the simple fact alone that Trump signed an executive order forbidding enforcement of the individual mandate in ObamaCare and conservatives cheering that on shows how hypocritical they were and still are on this issue.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 7:23 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
The AG does NOT have leeway to ignore the law.
Yes he does.
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