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Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:34 pm
I keep seeing this spouted. What is the implication with this?

That it is the AGs responsibility to enforce all laws on the books equally?

Then why even have an AG? All departments could just enforce everything.

The answer is the AG sets focus and priority to allocate limited resources.

Sessions setting resources to weed are resources that could have been spent elsewhere. Oops, now we need a budget increase. Small govt!
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:37 pm to
He simply said they were going to stop the official policy of ignoring federal drug laws as they pertain to marijuana.

Which is the correct answer.

Prosecutorial discretion still exists.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:37 pm to
Strange, I expected you to support the premise of this thread.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:39 pm to
Anyone supporting Sessions can never advocate for "states rights" again
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

Anyone supporting Sessions can never advocate for "states rights" again



Sessions wrote the Controlled Substances Act in 1970?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23141 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

Anyone supporting Sessions can never advocate for "states rights" again


Explain.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:42 pm to
Does the AG make the laws? Write your congressman, rather than us, as I certainly don’t give a frick about your opinion
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

That it is the AGs responsibility to enforce all laws on the books equally?

Then why even have an AG? All departments could just enforce everything.


Congress makes law. The AG enforces law. The law states DACAs are illegal. Either the law needs to change or the AG must enforce existing law. Trump put DACA right back where it should have been -- in the lap of Congress. Now Trump has put marijuana legalization right back where it should have been -- in the lap of Congress.

The AG does NOT have leeway to ignore the law.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:43 pm to
Your reply misses my point.

I am directly challenging the assertion it's the AGs job to enforce all the laws. It is the AGs job to set focus.

By saying the AG is to enforce all the laws, it implies the previous DoJ was outside of their wheelhouse to make a policy to avoid weed prosecution on the first place. I don't at all agree. Sessions is within his ignorant right to go after weed and the previous DoJ is in their right to avoid it. That is the AGs job.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

That it is the AGs responsibility to enforce all laws on the books equally?


Yes

The legislature should be less gutless. Stand up if you believe in it instead of sloughing it off to someone not elected.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

The AG does NOT have leeway to ignore the law


That is exactly what prosecutors do when they decide not to prosecute. The policy was just discretion on a grand scale.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

Congress makes law. The AG enforces law. The law states DACAs are illegal. Either the law needs to change or the AG must enforce existing law. Trump put DACA right back where it should have been -- in the lap of Congress. Now Trump has put marijuana legalization right back where it should have been -- in the lap of Congress.

The AG does NOT have leeway to ignore the law.



It amazes me that so many people don't seem to understand this.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

It is the AGs job to set focus.
As long as "focus" does not ignore existing law. If "focus" ignores and/or creates law, it is extra-constitutional.
Posted by Topcat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2005
439 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:45 pm to
That's weak. The Congress makes the law, not the AG. If you want weed to be legal or states to say whether it is legal, pressure your Congressmen. We don't want the AG deciding which laws to enforce or not to enforce--that leads to inconsistency in enforcement and the lawlessness of the Obama administration. It allows the Justice Dept. to give Hillary a pass but to hammer Trump associates for lying about things that have nothing to do with Mueller's investigation. Congress, not Sessions, should decide what the law is. He just enforces it, whatever it is.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

That is exactly what prosecutors do when they decide not to prosecute.


No...just. No.

Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:45 pm to
Prosecutorial discretion is ignoring the law which you already advocated for.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

Prosecutorial discretion is ignoring the law


No, it's not.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

That is exactly what prosecutors do when they decide not to prosecute.
No.

But if they do, they should be fired.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:46 pm to
Explain.
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