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re: The H1B issue is at the core of MAGA

Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:40 am to
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21262 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:40 am to
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The H1B issue is at the core of MAGA


I don't care how good of an engineer you are, if you come from a culture where people throw cow shite at each other then I don't want you in my country. Why don't we just use this framing?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
34969 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:41 am to
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The H1B issue is at the core of MAGA

MAGA is dead. You're America-First or you're America-last.

I'm still happy with some of the things Trump has done, but in general he has singlehandedly killed the agenda he birthed. Backing off on Epstein, supporting both sides of Israel/Hamas and continuing support for a losing effort in Ukraine- those things killed MAGA.

Still, this is better than the alternative. The Dims are trying to label the recent elections as "a rEfErEnDuM oN bLuMpF" but they're imploding at all levels and the power of the Legacy Media Narrative Control Apparatus is dissolving every day. If Harris had won instead of Trump, we'd be either dead or in camps learning to speak Mandarin right now.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19810 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:42 am to
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Either this is an economic zone that is a place where people from across the world can come to get benefits (H1B jobs, welfare, college) at the detriment of our job market, healthcare systems, housing market, and general infrastructure or this is a nation with traditions, cultural norms, and institutions worth preserving and putting support behind.

I have exactly zero idea what MAGA is or ever meant if to the person who started the movement believes we need to continue to flood the domestic job market with foreign workers.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
25732 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:42 am to
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I don't care how good of an engineer you are


From my experience, the ones we have dealt with aren’t good at this either. Unless they’re given menial tasks, like producing drawings, they’re not good at actual Engineering and don’t have a lot of real world experience.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42719 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:44 am to
When the H1B conversation comes up I always bring up Theseus Ship paradox.

It's literally playing out in real time.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5464 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:44 am to
I am not going to be voting Democrat or for an “independent” candidate because the US has done a poor job preparing the workforce for the next generation. Furthermore, there aren’t millions of well qualified Americans just waiting to be hired for these jobs. So they either go unfilled or you have to hire foreign workers. Blaming Trump for massive failures of public education and public universities is just dumb. The same people complaining about this also complained about tariffs. There is no fixing the trade disparities without tariffs so you either want nothing done or you agree with the US being screwed in most trade deals
Posted by The Scofflaw
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2014
1889 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:45 am to
The disgusting thing about what's happening is every Indian you see is a high paying job that was taken away from an American. They're in nice neighborhoods while US citizens can't afford housing. Then if you go into certain cities you'll see it looks like little India. Imagine allowing this to happen to your fellow citizens and being okay with it.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42719 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:46 am to
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The disgusting thing about what's happening is every Indian you see is a high paying job that was taken away from an American. They're in nice neighborhoods while US citizens can't afford housing. Then if you go into certain cities you'll see it looks like little India. Imagine allowing this to happen to your fellow citizens and being okay with it.


You will own nothing and serve your H1B overlords.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119244 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:48 am to
400,000 just last year alone.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119244 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:49 am to
Your post doesn’t make sense. Hundreds of thousands of tech workers have been laid off in the past few years.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463655 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:51 am to
I think he argued the "don't get a bad degree" meme in stout's thread.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25893 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:52 am to
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Why does this seem to only be associated with Indians. Are Europeans or Asians not eligible for H1B ?


They are, but Indian body shops and Indian nepotistic green card hiring managers have basically monopolized the H1B system for Indians.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119244 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:52 am to
Yeah, we’re recruiting welders from India now
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292686 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:54 am to
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The same people complaining about this also complained about tariffs. There is no fixing the trade disparities without tariffs


The trade disparity is inconsequential.

MAGA argues that we need high paying jobs, yet argues relentlessly for the return of rubber dog shite factories which will pay 12-14 an hour.

Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
25893 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:54 am to
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From my experience, the ones we have dealt with aren’t good at this either. Unless they’re given menial tasks, like producing drawings, they’re not good at actual Engineering and don’t have a lot of real world experience.


They cant problem solve at all. Because their ultra superior education is all about cramming knowledge to pass a test, not be critical thinkers who can solve problems

Anyone who has worked with teams of Indians know that they short circuit anytime something goes off script
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
25732 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:55 am to
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Anyone who has worked with teams of Indians know that they short circuit anytime something goes off script


100% correct
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50632 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:55 am to
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2026 will be ugly without a course correction
That's our only hope.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
99 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:59 am to
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I canceled my Prime subscription because the retards in India had no idea how to deal with my fraud matter that they should have been able to correct in a minute.


One of the biggest aggravations when calling these help desks sourced from India is the “customer service” preamble legalese and pleasantry speech they give you in their Indian accents. I’m like, you don’t need to tell me all that. I know and I’m doing okay, now can we get to the reason I called? We’ve already wasted five minutes with AI prescreening and call forwarding to India. So frustrating.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5464 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:00 am to
If you are hoping for massive Democrat victories then you are past the point of help if you think that’s a solution to anything
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
147698 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:08 am to
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Stephen Miller is the reason why Trump admin vol. 2 has been a fricking disaster.
Trump V2.0 pushed all the chips in on Autist
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