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re: The great poliboard poster NIH recently described a faction of dems I’ve been thinking of

Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:26 am to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
56017 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:26 am to
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There has never been an extremely liberal president elected.

You guys put an extremely right-wing reality TV star in office.

I think you are way off the mark. First, I would say that Obama was extremely liberal. He expanded the welfare state as much as he possibly could.

Second, Trump is not far right wing, unless the democrat talking points about him trying to become a dictator are believed. But that isn’t supported by logic; it’s just an article of faith. Trump’s America First rhetoric and policies are right wing, but so were Biden’s immigration policies left wing. That doesn’t make either guy a radical right or left wing guy.

I think Trump is a radical in the sense that he is radically altering American policies. And it is in service of nationalism, so that sounds right wing. On the other hand, he is interrupting the free trade of goods that has exposed the American worker to cheap foreign competition, and he is doing so at the expense of the big businesses that have benefitted from this trade. That sounds left wing. He and Bernie Sanders are both proposing that the US government take ownership in big companies. That sounds very left wing(and awful).
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17318 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:47 am to
This faction of Dems is as real as John Thune’s constituency.

It remains as a myth uniting a few hundred consultants on Team Blue.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
10946 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:14 am to
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Because they are too stupid to debate a point.


Some people, with their mind numbingly repetitive post history, prove themselves not worthy of debate.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61640 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 12:52 pm to
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Click the link I provided, it's to the DNC's 2024 central platform. The pushing of the dysmorphic (through the smokescreen of LGTBQ+whateverthefrickelsetheyclaimisagenderorsexualityorwhatever advocacy) is a core belief of party leadership. That's not a "very vibrant and very vocal minority," that's party control.


First, all politicians want control.

Second, I read some of the document you linked. I did a “find” for transgender. I read the blurb. I don’t find it egregious but I also don’t want to appear to be supporting trans ideology. Obviously everyone who calls himself a democrat has not read that document or sign some sort of pledge to uphold it. Just like everyone who calls himself a Republican didn’t sign a pledge to support military action in the ME.

At the end of the day, average people just want the opportunity to live a dignified and fair life. They will vote for whoever seems to be most concerned with championing that.

ETA to keep this centered on the “blind loyalty” aspect— I might be giving people too much credit but I don’t think most people feel an unwavering loyalty to any political party (when it comes to presidential elections at least).
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 12:56 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128874 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 1:36 pm to
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The very vibrant and very vocal minority.


In this thread, Chubbies unintentionally proves OP right while arguing OP is incorrect.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
9001 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 2:16 pm to
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The level of mental retardation never ceases to amaze me


Yours?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22792 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 2:54 pm to
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At the end of the day, average people just want the opportunity to live a dignified and fair life. They will vote for whoever seems to be most concerned with championing that.

Based on actions as opposed to rhetoric, in your opinion - what are the top 3 priorities of each party?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174250 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 3:06 pm to
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Based on actions as opposed to rhetoric, in your opinion - what are the top 3 priorities of each party?

Sadly it doesn't seem the well being if American citizens resides as a top 3 priority for either party. It's almost an afterthought.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22792 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 3:14 pm to
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Sadly it doesn't seem the well being if American citizens resides as a top 3 priority for either party. It's almost an afterthought.

Can that really be argued without seeing the list?

For example, one of the reasons I voted Trump is definitely in the top 3 on the Right - ending mass illegal immigration and deporting hoards of illegals. I can argue all day that that is absolutely a priority that supports the well-being of American citizens.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41835 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 3:26 pm to
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The very vibrant and very vocal minority.


The DNC as a whole isn’t a vocal minority.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61640 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 5:14 pm to
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Based on actions as opposed to rhetoric, in your opinion - what are the top 3 priorities of each party?


They have the same priorities:

1. Retain power
2. Enrich themselves
3. Cater to their donors
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41835 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 5:43 pm to
Of course the question went over cubs head.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22792 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 5:52 pm to
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They have the same priorities:

1. Retain power
2. Enrich themselves
3. Cater to their donors

It's unfortunate you didn't bother answering the question, but then again you likely know how it would make Dem voters look.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61640 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:03 pm to
I did answer the question.

Do you disagree with my answer? What information do you use to determine the priorities of an entire political party?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61640 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:04 pm to
I don’t think it’s possible for you to think in terms outside of “democrats are bad and republicans are good.”

Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22792 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:16 pm to
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I did answer the question.

I'm pretty sure you understood what I was asking about and it wasn't - "are politicians self-serving?"
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61640 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:00 pm to
You agree that politicians are self-serving and want me to make up fake priorities for them that aren’t self-serving?

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41835 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:23 pm to
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I'm pretty sure you understood what I was asking about and it wasn't - "are politicians self-serving?"


Perhaps she truly is too dumb to understand what you asked.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22792 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:48 pm to
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Perhaps she truly is too dumb to understand what you asked.

Appears to be the case.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41835 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:57 pm to
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make up fake priorities


The border crisis of the Biden era was not real!
Trannies arent real!
Soft on crime policies arent real!

- 4dumbcubs
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