re: The former Maricopa County Elections attorney Rachel Alexander weighs in.

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What if testimony also revealed that the ballots were sealed in a container, transported, opened back up at the elections center, adjudicated (transposed) and then tabulated, all with a Republican and Democrat observers accompanying them every step?

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Does not matter. Chain of custody has to be maintained, otherwise things are ripe for being corrupted or exploited. There are a lot of ways to make it seem like every vote is being counted and that every box of votes made it or that all of the votes even made it into the boxes.

I honestly don't care if each party had an observer along for the ride. What if the GOP observer is a Lake-hater who is in on the fraud?

Chain of custody matters when dealing with evidence. Signature matching is also crucial, but the judge didn't want to open that can of worms.

What’s done is done. Turn off the news and live life.

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There is no issue with regard to the 250K votes that were cast and tabulated at the 223 voting centers.

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There is no proof that these 250000 are legal ballots, bc no chain of custody documents were produced by Maricopa County. Where did these 250000 ballots come from? How were they inserted into the process. The fact that Maricopa didn’t produce the chain of custody documentation in my mind means that Maricopa did not prove, with evidence, that 250000 ED ballots, were legal votes.

The way that the law is interpreted (not written, but interpreted) is that bc Maricopa said they counted 250000 votes, that these votes were legal and they are all true votes - unless proven otherwise. Why exactly are you willing to give them the benefit of the doubt to Maricopa County, when its representative, perjured himself under oath? Further, we know that at least 50 of them were improper. Why do you think that the violations were limited to this example? If they are lying in these contexts, what the hell else are they lying about? There is no way to verify i.e. certify the elections without looking at these documents. That has ALWAYS been my problem with these “because I say so that’s why” certifications by secretaries of state since 2020. How do they certify the result was accurate without the chain of custody documents?? These state officials don’t speak things into existence

No chain of custody documentation was produced for 250,000 ballots. You’re willing to assume that this means that the chain of custody documentation both exists, and that it shows that all 250000 ballots were legally collected and stored, even tho Maricopa didn’t produce the records. i am Not that optimistic. i think the very fact that they are concealing these records shows that we had a reason to mistrust the result. Concealment is circumstantial evidence of intent.

Further, In other cases where a litigant hides or destroys evidence, the law presumes that the evidence would have been bad for the litigant, especially when the litigant has a duty to preserve and produce the records. From a legal standpoint, the failure to produce this documentation after a valid request that Maricopa had a legal duty to preserve, should have been evidence that the chain of custody documents were bad for Arizona/Maricopa.

No documentation means to me that 250000 ballots were illegal votes.

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There is no proof that these 250000 are legal ballots, bc no chain of custody documents were produced by Maricopa County. Where did these 250000 ballots come from? How were they inserted into the process.

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You understand that we’re talking about undisputed votes, right? Not even KL questions the validity of votes cast and tabulated in real time at the voting centers by voters electing to vote in person.

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Further, we know that at least 50 of them were improper.

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No. You’re confusing 50 ballots entered into the system by contractors that were handling mail-in ballots.

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There is no way to verify i.e. certify the elections without looking at these documents. That has ALWAYS been my problem with these “because I say so that’s why” certifications by secretaries of state since 2020.

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You keep skipping over the part where KL’s own witness acknowledges the chain of custody documents exist. And you’re conflating not responding to a FOIA request with it not being established in a cour of law and cited by the judge in his ruling that these chain of custody documents exist.

Are you arguing the KL’s witness perjured herself?

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No documentation means to me that 250000 ballots were illegal votes.

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You and a few others on this board are the only people disputing Election Day, in-person votes that were tabulated in real time at voting centers. KL certainly does not dispute them given something like 78% of them were votes for her.

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any mention in trial of Runbeck? a contracted ballot handler which is illegal in maricopa,and no chain of custody at runbeck

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Yeah. Their whole role was discussed.

And it’s Runbeck employees that introduced the 50 ballots that everybody agreed were illegitimate because employees tossed their own/family’s own ballots onto a pile.

maybe these lawyers are losing these lower court cases on purpose to go to a higher court and bring out more evidence

no mention of the military electronicaly monitoring this election.mentioned in the article is marc elias,that he may have emailed the response,that is one corrupt sob,he worked for perkins coie with michael sussman this is the c i a `s law firm,sussman is no longer with us.elias stated before the election it may take days before we know the results.he is part of the fix

Republicans need to learn to early vote and this will end all the Election Day shenanigans

Because he must perpetuate the lie. If one falls...they all fall.

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all the voters who saw the long lines and gave up trying to vote

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Ms Alexander doesn't like the Democratic party using the same voting tactics invented by the GOP.

Voter disenfranchisement, suppression has been a major cornerstone of the GOP, Republican election strategies for decades.