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re: The elephant in the room regarding boasberg/venezuelan gangs.

Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:46 am to
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39312 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:46 am to
Are you suggesting that illegal aliens, ipso facto criminals, are somehow having their rights violated by being shown the door?
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18198 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:48 am to
You probably should take a break this morning. You can regale us with your brilliance after the JFK files come out later today.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46403 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:49 am to
Too late.

The political optics issue Democrats are gonna have here is, when 100% of everything Trump does is challenged by judges and 100% of those judges are liberal Democrats, reasonable people are gonna start to doubt whether or not this is about the letter of the law.

Especially when these same judges sat on their hands as Biden did wild shite like the vax mandate or waiving student loan debt.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 9:13 am
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2021 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:50 am to
that's what you learn with a half a million post and an interweb law degree!

Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16980 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:03 am to
Every last on of these people have no conscious i say let em back in
put em on a bus and drop em off at every liberal judges house, they want them in mine and your hood but not theirs they're a bunch of hypocritical motherfrickers
Posted by tiger1616
Member since May 2020
751 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:10 am to
This was an Obama appointee correct? Show me where he stopped a single one of Obama’s deportations and I’ll start to listen. Did Biden deport anyone? Probably not. But if so, did this guy stand in his way?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162989 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:14 am to
it is as plain as day in the article I posted today-ACLU and Democracy Forward-demanded Trump turn his planes around-- and now prove he didn't disobey them by NOON today.

the judges orders were 'Democracy Forwards'/ACLU's demands.

this.is.where.we.are.at.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46403 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:14 am to
Dont waste your time. he will try to "intellectualize" you to death by pointing out any and all minor differences in cases from one administration to the next, then keep that up for 87 pages until you eventually have to go back to earning a living or caring for a family.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19933 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:16 am to
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This was an Obama appointee correct? Show me where he stopped a single one of Obama’s deportations and I’ll start to listen. Did Biden deport anyone? Probably not. But if so, did this guy stand in his way?


The issue is that none of Obama deportions where challenged by an NGO funded by our tax payer dollars. Such a great scheme the Dems played. Thank God Elon exposed this grift!
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 9:17 am
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:28 am to
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Judge Boasberg did not act in a vacuum.


True, he acted in his daughters financial interest, which is how he has been compromised.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:32 am to
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Are you suggesting that illegal aliens, ipso facto criminals, are somehow having their rights violated by being shown the door?

I'm saying it's theoretically possible that they are having their rights violated and evaluating that claim makes no evaluation of the underlying nature of the purported criminal.

They can be the literal worst people in the world and that's irrelevant to a discussion over if their rights were violated or if the statutory authority used to impact their lives was wielded properly and legally.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 9:33 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39312 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:34 am to
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statutory authority


So, you concede that the Executive branch is the proper authority and the judicial has no standing.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63068 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Some progressive group or individual, obsessed with stopping anything djt does, immediately filed a lawsuit once they heard about the deportations.


The ACLU has lost its way.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:37 am to
quote:

So, you concede that the Executive branch is the proper authority

No

Use the whole quote

quote:

if the statutory authority used to impact their lives was wielded properly and legally.


They're using a very aggressive interpretation of the Alien Enemies Act and various statutes declaring them "terrorists". That's a central part of the dispute.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 9:38 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467780 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:39 am to
quote:

The ACLU has lost its way.

by defending pieces of shite? This is more in line with their historic values than the reversal post-Charlotesville

They defended the 1st Amendment rights of literal Nazis in Skokie
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63068 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:41 am to
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by defending pieces of shite?


By defending people who aren't Americans and therefore have no right to American civil liberties.
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
Member since Sep 2024
1083 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:41 am to
quote:

This irrationality is like the people who melt when the Supreme Court makes a ruling that the rights of a terrible person who clearly committed terrible crimes were violated.

When courts are discussing the limits of governmental power, the underlying case/merits often include bad people. That's why the merits are irrelevant to the legal discussion unfolding (despite this being impossible for certain people to separate due to emotions and partisan-based programming


Not sure what you are specifically melting about. But the post you are responding to stated that there is a group of radical leftwing lawyers assembled to immediately challenge every action Trump takes in order to interfere/overthrow his administration by bogging them down with useless lawfare.


Are you pretending this does not exist?

Because they have already admitted, no bragged, that is what they are doing. Thousands of lawyers funded by hundreds of millions of dollars from radical billionaires.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39312 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:43 am to
quote:

They're using a very aggressive interpretation


What you meant was a technical interpretation

Posted by 03 West CoChamps
Member since Sep 2024
647 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:45 am to
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This is the response of someone who had my point to completely over his head.

I did not such thing.


What rights are being violated of criminals here illegally being deported? What am I missing? Outside of you using your 3rd rate law school education to try to talk over people and not make any sense yourself.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7742 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:46 am to
quote:

es, as a rule liberals are anti American.


These people are not liberal but are "progressives" or leftists. They don't see themselves as "Americans" due the racist and bigoted connotations connected to it.
They view themselves as citizens of the world.
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