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re: The devastation of Helene has laid bare the fricked up priorities of the US government

Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:51 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:51 am to
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That’s fine. It’s still a zero sum game.

It's not, that's the problem with this conflation.

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Every dollar wasted on bullshite is a dollar that could have been used efficiently


Ukraine spending has no relation to infrastructure spending. There is not one static pot of money. Trying to conflate the 2 (implying we don't have money for infrastructure due to Ukraine, or any other policy) is silly.

Note: I am not offering any personal opinions of the system, just accurately describing the reality of the system in place.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89834 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:51 am to
It’s okay, the democrats are signing missiles all those people paid for. You know, for democracy.

Posted by clacker
kamrad cooked!
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:51 am to
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Ukraine spending has no relation to infrastructure spending. There is not one static pot of money. Trying to conflate the 2 (implying we don't have money for infrastructure due to Ukraine, or any other policy) is silly.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477251 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:51 am to
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Your opponents in court must get so frustrated. It’s hard to argue with someone who’s completely illogical


I take it you're not going not going to answer and rely on ad homs instead?

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When has all this spending deprived the federal government form throwing out trillions domestically for "every fricking disaster" (to use your language)?
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:53 am to
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will bet you $100


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SlowFlowPro


Who let the poors in here?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477251 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:54 am to
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clacker


Are you confused as to how our federal government funds things?

Do you understand that we run deficits and have accumulated huge amounts of debt? How could that happen with the "one pot" theory?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89834 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:54 am to
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Sure Why bring up Ukraine?



Because the fema funding was attached to one of the Ukraine bills.


They basically say you can’t fund these things without our Ukraine money. And way more goes to Ukraine.





This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 8:55 am
Posted by clacker
kamrad cooked!
Member since Aug 2024
904 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:55 am to
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Are you confused as to how our federal government funds things?

Do you understand that we run deficits and have accumulated huge amounts of debt? How could that happen with the "one pot" theory?


That's exactly what I am at. You and idiots like you are apparently ok with run away debt. fricking moron.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4143 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:55 am to
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Don't be intentionally stupid.


It's not an act, the dude is seriously impaired.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477251 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:55 am to
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Because the fema funding was attached to one of the Ukraine bills.

And what amount of FEMA funding was lost due to this?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477251 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:56 am to
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You and idiots like you are apparently ok with run away debt.

Wait....what?

Where did I say that?
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3349 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:56 am to
Oh look it’s the condescending a-hole.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42652 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:56 am to
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Imagine if we stopped pissing away money on Ukraine and Israel and poured it into the infrastructure in the US


We have been pouring billions into infrastructure.

Coastal flooding, windmills, solar, trains, and airports all come before highways and bridges.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477251 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:56 am to
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the dude is seriously impaired.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477251 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:56 am to
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Oh look it’s the condescending a-hole.

You left out *Correct
Posted by clacker
kamrad cooked!
Member since Aug 2024
904 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:57 am to
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Yes, and you just made my point that Ukraine is completely irrelevant to this disaster (and the future spending)

Right here you fricking moron.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477251 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:57 am to
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We have been pouring billions into infrastructure.

Coastal flooding, windmills, solar, trains, and airports all come before highways and bridges.


THIS is a much better argument than trying to link money going to Ukraine as preventing investment in infrastructure, generally.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82442 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:57 am to
They spent the FEMA money on Ukraine.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38465 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:57 am to
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It's not, that's the problem with this conflation.


It is. Every dollar spent on x is a dollar you can’t spend on y.

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Ukraine spending has no relation to infrastructure spending. There is not one static pot of money. Trying to conflate the 2 (implying we don't have money for infrastructure due to Ukraine, or any other policy) is silly.



There is one static pot of money. Just because we can add more money to the pot doesn’t mean what you think it means.

If we spend x% of the budget on line item A, that is x% of money LOCKED AWAY that cannot be spent on line item B.

Doesn’t matter that you can just add more money to the pot via the print moar money button.

A dollar spent is a dollar spent. Can’t spend that same dollar on two things. The math don’t math like that.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32066 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 8:58 am to
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It's not an act, the dude is seriously impaired.


And it’s funny. I really don’t care about his political beliefs. He’s one of those guys that thinks he’s really intelligent. He uses ridiculous words to make him feel like he’s intellectual but in actuality I bet he’s dull on an IQ test.
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