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re: The definitive video showing Good's vehicle striking the agent

Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:42 pm to
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The ONLY thing that saved him was the icy road.


This could be true.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:44 pm to
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The Psychology Behind Contrarianism Contrarian behavior is fueled by a combination of factors: intellectual confidence, skepticism, and a desire for attention. Some contrarians believe they are revealing overlooked truths, while others just enjoy causing social friction.


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A savior complex isn't a formal personality disorder in the DSM but a pattern of behavior where someone feels compelled to rescue others, often stemming from low self-esteem or past trauma, leading to one-sided, codependent relationships where they neglect their own needs to fix "damaged" people, sometimes becoming burned out or enabling unhealthy patterns, and it can be linked to underlying conditions like narcissistic or dependent traits, but also exists in people with healthy intentions.
This post was edited on 1/12/26 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:45 pm to
Or in relentless alter's arse he is a clown
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:46 pm to
Meh. The psychology is fascinating.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:47 pm to
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See Florida below - if you reasonably believe imminent danger you can run over people in your car - explain that
There is nothing to "explain." I have said the same thing ... probably 100 times.

The question at issue in this case is NOT one of what the legal standard might be. The questiton is whether the agent HAD a "reasonable belief that deadly force was necessary to protect life or prevent serious bodily harm.
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You have twisted yourself into knots to be the biggest anti law enforcement person in this thread.
No, I just hold law enforcement to the appropriate legal standard for their behavior, rather than simply giving them the benefit of every doubt ... because they are doing something (apprehending illegal immigrants) that is very popular on this forum.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:47 pm to
Relentless even.
Posted by BigUglies10
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:47 pm to
Nah, just means I ain’t taking no chances - you FA, you FO. Doesn’t have to have PSTD.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:48 pm to
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People effective at changing minds are empathetic, confident, and build trust through active listening, finding common ground, and presenting simple, relevant information framed around the other person's interests, often using storytelling and asking questions rather than just stating facts. They are open-minded, intellectually humble, and focus on building connections and shared understanding, not just winning arguments.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:51 pm to
Now do "martyr complex" and apply it to 95% of the posters on this forum.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:51 pm to
I know the result of voir dire if you were in the jury pool.
Posted by Bayoutigre
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:52 pm to
this video is a different location,looks to be a parking lot.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:52 pm to
Tit for tat?

Hold please.

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martyr complex is a psychological pattern where individuals constantly self-sacrifice, putting others' needs far above their own, often leading to burnout and resentment, driven by a need for recognition or to avoid responsibility, and characterized by difficulty saying "no," poor boundaries, and a feeling of being victimized.
This post was edited on 1/12/26 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:53 pm to
The video is false!

I need to know the thought process of the ice agent!
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8426 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:56 pm to

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He didn't shoot to stop the threat


Here is the actual law and - no way you watched that video and came to that.

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(3) that the decision by a peace officer to use deadly force shall be evaluated from the perspective of a reasonable officer in the same situation, based on the totality of the circumstances known to or perceived by the officer at the time, rather than with the benefit of hindsight, and that the totality of the circumstances shall account for occasions when officers may be forced to make quick judgments about using deadly force;
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He didn’t shoot to stop the threat.


So the experts are reasonable officers and circumstances perceived or known at the time to stop the threat!

Seems very clear cut here
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:56 pm to
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I know the result of voir dire if you were in the jury pool.
I have had lawyers try to exclude me "for cause" several times, and they always fail. But one one side or the other will always use a peremptory challenge to exclude me, because they think they understand my preconceptions. They have always been wrong.

I had a prosecutor exclude me once, and I was close friends with one of his co-workers. I told my friend to tell him that I would probably have been his foreman and that I probably would have gotten him his conviction based upon wht I heard in voir dire. My friend also told him that I was right.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:57 pm to
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I was right.


Hold please.

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People who always believe they are right often have fragile egos, low self-esteem, or narcissistic tendencies, using the need to be correct as a defense mechanism to avoid admitting mistakes or appearing weak, a cognitive distortion where reality is twisted to protect their self-image, often stemming from a deep-seated fear of vulnerability or a strong need for control, though it can sometimes stem from genuine expertise but lacks consideration for other views.
This post was edited on 1/12/26 at 8:59 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 8:58 pm to
bullshite.

You are a clown.

No wonder you altered.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
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Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:00 pm to
Your level of obsession with me is ... off the charts.

Seek help, friend.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8426 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:00 pm to
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release records related to the death of a Minnesota resident.


Can you show us positive proof she was a resident of Minnesota
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:02 pm to
Obsession by replying oh noes! what a twat.
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