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Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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this new "information" really has no bearing on the murder case
it only has bearing on the whole "holy shite this prosecutor's office should face consequences" case
To me it shows why the went after him and that it wasn't just some random black guy. The DA has had several run ins with the family. It's still murder.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:22 am to RollTide1987
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This shite is pointless. We don’t know anything, all we have is a video. Let it go to trial and let the chips fall where they may.
If you want to follow that logic then this whole board is pointless.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:24 am to dgnx6
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To me it shows why the went after him and that it wasn't just some random black guy. The DA has had several run ins with the family. It's still murder.
I mean, I'm very skeptical that McMichael recognized him as someone he interacted with before. I do think the second DA made things worse by not realizing he had a connection to McMichael. The appearance by itself is bad, and there probably should have been someone early on who notified an outside agency, rather than letting it move from DA to DA until this thing finally exploded with the video leak.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:33 am to Roger Klarvin
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Even IF that were true, at the point where he is running unarmed away from you on city owned property ITS STILL MURDER IF YOU RUN HIM DOWN AND PROCEED TO SHOOT AND KILL HIM.
No.
Under your scenario a citizens arrest authorized.
Also under an authorized citizens arrest, you are allowed to defend yourself with lethal force.
We just have to flesh out those elements to see what happened here.
The key will be what they knew from the deceased’s trespassing and possible intent to steal and if anything would be reasonable and immediate evidence of a felony.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:35 am to crazy4lsu
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Why wasn't any mention made of any items stolen in the DA memo which explained why he wasn't charging the McMichael's?
Maybe he didn’t believe the immediate knowledge of a felony was in question.
We’ll have to see the evidence.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:36 am to Turbeauxdog
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Maybe he didn’t believe the immediate knowledge of a felony was in question.
So he just assumed the guilt of Arbery without any actual physical evidence? That would be idiotic.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:51 am to mtntiger
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I am not at all saying the kid was innocent (we have no way of knowing), but he did not deserve to get killed.
Absolutely nobody should die like that, but Arbery continually made bad choices in his life. And as you know bad choices eventually lead to disastrous consequences.
Are you aware the prosecutor indicated Arbery initiated contact with the son? Are you aware Arbery was caught on video burglarizing a home in the neighborhood? I suggest you quit trying to make a martyr out of a petty criminal.
Having said that, maybe we should wait until all the evidence is presented at the trial before making ridiculous statements.
Good day!
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:53 am to Turbeauxdog
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Also under an authorized citizens arrest, you are allowed to defend yourself with lethal force.
Now you’re making things up.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:56 am to GeorgePaton
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Are you aware the prosecutor indicated Arbery initiated contact with the son?
Are you aware that the dad used to work in the DA's office? There seems to be some major conflict of interest and incompetence (hopefully) on that guy's part
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:00 pm to GeorgePaton
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Are you aware the prosecutor indicated Arbery initiated contact with the son? Are you aware Arbery was caught on video burglarizing a home in the neighborhood?
Maybe we should wait until all the evidence is presented at the trial before making ridiculous statements.
here come the Elmer Gantry fake christian types to try and justify a murder by two deranged hicks. I'd be disappointed if they weren't here.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:03 pm to jchamil
The problem with combining the citizens arrest and self-defense is that there’s nothing that can’t be justified from it.
You chase a guy and you have a gun. He stops to fight you because you’re not police and he fears for his life. You then shoot him.
As one attorney put it, it’s the “Rosetta Stone” of violence.
You chase a guy and you have a gun. He stops to fight you because you’re not police and he fears for his life. You then shoot him.
As one attorney put it, it’s the “Rosetta Stone” of violence.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:11 pm to GeorgePaton
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Absolutely nobody should die like that, but Arbery continually made bad choices in his life.
shite reasoning right here, JFC.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:12 pm to GeorgePaton
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maybe we should wait until all the evidence is presented at the trial before making ridiculous statements.
Is it really ridiculous to say Arbery didn't deserve to be killed?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:12 pm to the808bass
To anyone defending this killing, let me ask you this. If in fact Ahmaud was burglarizing, and McMichael has two options: a. Call the police or b. Follow the guy and trap him On the street while aiming shotguns at him. Out of those two options presented which is the more responsible? Which of these scenarios may lead to a very bad outcome? It is very obvious that the complete wrong decision was made, and a man lost his life. Sorry, but a man should not be Murdered in the street like an animal because he may or may not have been burglarizing. If you are defending McMichaels action you are a garbage human being. This is the most blatant case of a man being murdered unjustly captured on video.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:14 pm to REG861
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here come the Elmer Gantry fake christian types to try and justify a murder by two deranged hicks.
Two deranged hicks? You forgot to use the racist descripton "two hayseed smelly wal-mart trumpster types".
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:21 pm to GeorgePaton
They were - objectively - trigger happy fat white trash. If you identify with someone who looks likeTravis Mcmichael enough to get offended by that description then I’ll assume the same about you.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:31 pm to REG861
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They were - objectively - trigger happy fat white trash.
Okay soy boi. We get your point. But Ahmaud Arbery is still a petty thug, who got what he deserved. Furthermore, I believe when all the evidence is presented these two "trigger happy fat white trash" guys will be acquitted of the charge of murder.
One more thing. Are you black?
Good day!
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:37 pm to GeorgePaton
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GeorgePaton
You are why conservatives are painted as “racists”.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:38 pm to mtntiger
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Whether he knew the kid or not, it does not matter.
Potentially makes it worse. Raises the possiblity he was beefing with him.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 12:38 pm
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