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re: The cops are looking worse and worse here
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:44 pm to mmcgrath
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:44 pm to mmcgrath
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The first priority is to go to the shooter and eliminate the threat. Once you have resources dedicated and working on that you evacuate the kids.
There's a reason he was barricaded in one classroom. They had him contained. If they had all went back outside that dude would have been roaming all over the school and the body count could be higher. You don't know what happened in there.
Edited first part, misread your post. My bad
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 5:45 pm
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:44 pm to Palmetto98
Yahoo LINK
It appears they didn't even do that great of a job of securing the active shooter scene while they were fighting frantic parents.
"According to The Journal, Gomez was put in handcuffs by federal marshals for "intervening in an active crime scene," as she and other parents demanded officers enter the school. Gomez persuaded Uvalde law enforcement officers to release her, and she moved away from the crowd.
Gomez then hopped the school fence, sprinted inside the school to grab her children and made it out of the school with them alive."
It appears they didn't even do that great of a job of securing the active shooter scene while they were fighting frantic parents.
"According to The Journal, Gomez was put in handcuffs by federal marshals for "intervening in an active crime scene," as she and other parents demanded officers enter the school. Gomez persuaded Uvalde law enforcement officers to release her, and she moved away from the crowd.
Gomez then hopped the school fence, sprinted inside the school to grab her children and made it out of the school with them alive."
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:45 pm to Powerman
All I’m saying is that you (and 90% of the people who have been running their traps on the internet since this happened) have no clue what the hell you're talking about and that’s perfectly fine, just stop acting like you have all the answers because you aren’t even close 
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:45 pm to Palmetto98
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quote: Maybe the three officers who were in the building soon enough to engage in fire with the perp and who then remained there for an hour could’ve done something? Or they could just take cover while kids are shot and bleed out.. Didn’t he basically defeat them hence why they needed to call backup?
I guess they just had no options but to sit idly by while kids were killed and those that were already shot bled to death. After all whats most important is that they go home at the end of shift.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:45 pm to PaperTiger
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He also reported they were evacuating all the other children and faculty within 4 minutes.
So you had cops in the building evacuating kids while a nut in the building has a rifle that the cops will not descend on until backup arrives? I thought the first order of business was to hunker down in place in that situation.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:46 pm to Lightning
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Gomez then hopped the school fence, sprinted inside the school to grab her children and made it out of the school with them alive."
Genius
Divert officers to deal with your shite and take them away from what they were supposed to be doing
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:47 pm to TheRouxGuru
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All I’m saying is that you (and 90% of the people who have been running their traps on the internet since this happened) have no clue what the hell you're talking about and that’s perfectly fine, just stop acting like you have all the answers because you aren’t even close
If course we don't know everything. But we need to be honest with ourselves. These people are clock punchers for the most part. Very few of them are heroes.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:47 pm to TheRouxGuru
Her kids are still alive.
Other parents wish they could say the same.
Other parents wish they could say the same.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:47 pm to TheRouxGuru
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from what they were supposed to be doing
Making dinner plans??
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:48 pm to TheRouxGuru
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Divert officers to deal with your shite and take them away from what they were supposed to be doing
I don't think they were doing what they were supposed to be doing
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:49 pm to Vegas Eddie
Crowd control?
Figuring out what the frick is actually going on?
Finding the shooter?
Evacuating the kids?
There’s a shite ton of things happening at once man… an outsider doesn’t need to come and add to the list of shite that needs to be taken care of
Why can’t people comprehend this?
Figuring out what the frick is actually going on?
Finding the shooter?
Evacuating the kids?
There’s a shite ton of things happening at once man… an outsider doesn’t need to come and add to the list of shite that needs to be taken care of
Why can’t people comprehend this?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:49 pm to Homesick Tiger
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So you had cops in the building evacuating kids while a nut in the building has a rifle that the cops will not descend on until backup arrives? I thought the first order of business was to hunker down in place in that situation.
The only perfect answer is to sacrifice your police force in hope of one guy getting lucky
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:50 pm to Powerman
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I don't think they were doing what they were supposed to be doing
That’s the thing though, you have no clue what they’re supposed to be doing
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:50 pm to Homesick Tiger
What? They had him contained. They were evacuating other kids. They weren't sitting outside doesn't nothing like you keep stating. It's just not true.
I understand parents were frustrated. But that doesn't mean NOTHING was being don. You can't evacuate kids, have parents bomb rushing the school and try to take out the target at the range time. Do you understand how chaotic that would be? What do you think the body count could be? 50? 100?
I understand parents were frustrated. But that doesn't mean NOTHING was being don. You can't evacuate kids, have parents bomb rushing the school and try to take out the target at the range time. Do you understand how chaotic that would be? What do you think the body count could be? 50? 100?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:51 pm to PaperTiger
It’s honestly insane the way people are reacting to this
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:52 pm to TheRouxGuru
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Crowd control?
Figuring out what the frick is actually going on?
Finding the shooter?
Evacuating the kids?
There’s a shite ton of things happening at once man… an outsider doesn’t need to come and add to the list of shite that needs to be taken care of
Why can’t people comprehend this?
You have good points here but the fact that you think eliminating the threat first is an absurd idea might not say much about you
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:52 pm to TheRouxGuru
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an outsider doesn’t need to come and add to the list of shite that needs to be taken care of
That depends on whether or not the people who are supposed to be doing the shite on that list are actually doing it.
I don't know the specifics here, but I no longer give LE the benefit of the doubt so I'm not just going to assume they were doing everything correctly.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:52 pm to TheRouxGuru
You should probably find another thread.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:53 pm to Houag80
Why? What do you disagree with
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:53 pm to PaperTiger
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They had him contained.
No they didn't. They retreated for an hour waiting on a tactical squad to show. I heard it from the man's own mouth.
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