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re: The caravan flag bearers

Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:19 pm to
Hank: People can love their country but not its government.

ButtHurtTiger: You are an insufferable prick. DIAF.

You seem like a real winner.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39575 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:25 pm to
I'm not a big fan of my government. I'm not sure if you've heard, but the Russians rigged our elections and now we have an illigitimate racist president.

Do I get to go to Honduras with 5000 other gringos and be granted instant, resistance-free political assylum?
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:29 pm to
Kill
Them
All
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:32 pm to
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Are you sure that's from the caravan? Looks like a pro-refugee political rally on the beach, complete with drummers?


You can google all the pictures. I was watching it live
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

I'm not a big fan of my government. I'm not sure if you've heard, but the Russians rigged our elections and now we have an illigitimate racist president.

Do I get to go to Honduras with 5000 other gringos and be granted instant, resistance-free political assylum?
No, and neither do these folks. I have never said otherwise.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:38 pm to
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Hank: People can love their country but not its government.


Well if it’s so easy to organize thousands of people in to a desperate caravan why don’t they march it up to their governments doorstep and demand change?

Why is the United States the answer? Why not Mexico? It’s a shorter walk
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39575 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:48 pm to
Ok. Just want to know where you stand. It's sometimes hard to tell with all of your constant, passive-aggressive leftist hard legging.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35636 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:54 pm to
Have you never seen an MLS game or USNMT game in Los Angeles...against Mexico?

It's all Mexican flags and Viva Mexico chants.

Hell this was US-Chinese fans in the Women's World Cup in 1999...cheering on their Communist Country - the one they escaped from because it was awful - against the US - the country the escaped to for the opportunity to better their lives.



The days of immigrants embracing this country as their own are mostly over. It's just the US dollars they want...allegiance is still elsewhere.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 9:56 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

Well if it’s so easy to organize thousands of people in to a desperate caravan why don’t they march it up to their governments doorstep and demand change?

Why is the United States the answer? Why not Mexico? It’s a shorter walk
The American Left is not going to support a protest march to some Central American capital.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57393 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:43 pm to
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Most German Jews loved their country, and I would not be surprised if they retained flags from the pre-Nazi period.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:47 pm to
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If they want to come here to be Americans they would be flying the American flag.


Exactly. This is political theater backed by globalist politicians and lobbyists.

It takes a whole ton of unbelievable arrogance, ignorance, and insanity to show up at a foreign country you weren't invited to, insist that you be allowed to live there and take full advantage of its citizens and government programs without petitioning for citizenship, refuse to assimilate at all to the country's customs or learn the native language, and demand that the country you showed up at bend over backwards to accommodate you and your customs from the country you fled.

And for a major political party and its constituents representing roughly half the United States to not only fully publically support all of the above, but also to denounce, dismiss, and attack anyone who sees the problems inherent there as monsters is dangerously close to irreconcilable differences in this nation.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:48 pm to
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sniper should add her brains to that flag. At least the thing would have all 3 colors right then, Red, white, and blue.


We should totally blow all of their brains out.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

quote:

Most German Jews loved their country, and I would not be surprised if they retained flags from the pre-Nazi period.


Your response indicates that you know very little European history.

More than 100,000 Jews served in the German Imperial Army during WW1, and almost 20,000 were awarded the Iron Cross.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57393 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

More than 100,000 Jews served in the German Imperial Army during WW1, and almost 20,000 were awarded the Iron Cross.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

Taxing Authority
Is it physically-painful to be as stupid as you are? My sympathies.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57393 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:57 pm to
quote:

Is it physically-painful to be as stupid as you are? My sympathies.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:58 pm to
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Ebbandflow


It is your position that America can and should take in an unlimited amount of people without restriction or standards who are not seeking citizenship or assimilation and give them full access to all of our welfare and government funded programs and further that all American citizens should be happy about this and just continue to pay taxes and deal with the repercussions in silence?

You don't think that is an insane thing to demand? How do you reconcile that with reality?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:01 am to
quote:

It is your position that America can and should take in an unlimited amount of people without restriction or standards who are not seeking citizenship or assimilation and give them full access to all of our welfare and government funded programs and further that all American citizens should be happy about this and just continue to pay taxes and deal with the repercussions in silence?


No. Didn't Obama throw out tons of illegal immigrants? What makes you think that I would be for letting in tons and tons of immigrants? Illegal immigration in terms of border crossing has been going down since the early 2000s. You are being manipulated into voting for Republicans again. There is no great border War
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56475 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:21 am to
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Had this discussion with my fiancé today. I don’t understand why people from economically depressed and oppressed economies leave their country (obviously for the opportunities here) but at the same time would want to turn the US into the third world hell hole they left.

They don't turn it into anything intentionally. The same things that made their home countries suck just gets transplanted here.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13536 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:48 am to
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No. Didn't Obama throw out tons of illegal immigrants? What makes you think that I would be for letting in tons and tons of immigrants? Illegal immigration in terms of border crossing has been going down since the early 2000s. You are being manipulated into voting for Republicans again. There is no great border War


This is the great fallacy. Prior to obama we had deportees (from the interior) and turnarounds at the border. obama lumped the two together and called them all deportees, then compared the number to previous year's deportees only. Given there are far more turnarounds, he looked like the "deportee" president.

If you look back at previous admin and lump them together and compare to obama years, they deported far more. And in the last few years of his admin, with catch and release in full swing, there was little enforcement whatsoever.

Ive also heard the theory that more people returned home vs came over "due to the recession". Does any sane person actually believe, during a worldwide recession, that mejico suddenly became a mecca for jobs? The same aforementioned numbers were used to show fewer "turnarounds" at the border and thus less overall migration. In essence in one argument they called them all deportees, in another they called them turnarounds.

If you dig through the DHS website support sheets, you will find the asterisks and footnotes, but the clickbait is there for all to see.
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