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Posted on 8/13/22 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 1:57 pm to
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How are there open borders with the deportations that have occurred?


The border is not secure. The illegals have the ability to enter the country. If they can enter the country the border is open. Deportation is of some benefit but there are many who are not rounded up and deported.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 1:57 pm to
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HVAU


Explain this. How is raising taxes supposed to lower inflation? Why is it the democrats claim there is no inflation but yet they need this so called inflation reduction act to lower inflation?
This post was edited on 8/13/22 at 2:00 pm
Posted by HVAU
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Member since Sep 2010
5165 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:12 pm to
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Explain this. How is raising taxes supposed to lower inflation? Why is it the democrats claim there is no inflation but yet they need this so called inflation reduction act to lower inflation?


Raising taxes can place downward pressure on demand which can lower inflation. I don’t think it’s the best tool in the bag to address inflation. Interest rates are usually the first item to adjust, which was done by the Fed.

I think you’re referencing the recent inflation targeting legislation.

Per Forbes: The Tax Policy Center analyzed the big climate, health, and tax bill three different ways. The bill is quite progressive every time. On average, the after-tax incomes of low- and moderate-income households either would go up a bit or not change in any measurable way. The average after-tax incomes of high-income people would decline. But on average, the vast majority of households will barely notice any tax change, one way or the other.

I don’t know of any statements to the effect “there is no inflation”. There were earlier remarks, which were hopeful but incorrect, that inflation would be transitory and short term.
This post was edited on 8/13/22 at 2:15 pm
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22956 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:20 pm to
I don't know if any statements to the effect "there is no inflation."

On August 10th Joe Biden said there was zero inflation.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35125 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:28 pm to
That one in the front needs to sack up. Do the right thin, turn state’s evidence. Go deep undercover in disguise, maybe even dress up like a man to fool everyone.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297391 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:28 pm to
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. How is raising taxes supposed to lower inflation?


It will not, unless its out of circulation.

Moving money to another sector does little to help inflation.
Posted by HVAU
Up over here
Member since Sep 2010
5165 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:32 pm to
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On August 10th Joe Biden said there was zero inflation


He was wrong.
Posted by selfgen
youngsville
Member since Aug 2006
1164 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:32 pm to
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The hero worship, though, doesn’t forward that and with it we only continue this zero sum game approach to politics.


Why do you call it hero worship? Obama ‘s presidency resembled “hero worship” more than Trump’s.

Just because we have a guy who fights back against the swamp and isn’t a typical corrupt politician, our admiration is dismissed as “hero worship”. The media worshipped Obama and set him on a pedestal. It was so blatant and as President he did nothing at all to make this country better but they still worship him like he was the greatest thing to ever happen to this country.
Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
4245 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:36 pm to
so you must have been living under a rock for the last two years.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15130 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:38 pm to
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In my view the Trump team attempted to subvert the peaceful transition of power through mob violence. It failed luckily, but it is


Anyone that actually has this view is a complete moron and nothing more than a sheep. Everything you post is basically a lie.
Posted by keltonAve
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2022
202 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:41 pm to
I'm an independent and a rationalist. I'm watching the "Trump
doc bullshite" with great interest. I don't propose any utopia policies, and I've never come close to being a commie. It's not my kind of club. Maybe if Engels or Trotsky had better senses of humor, but nah...

The attacks on the law( including those who enforce it), as well as our judicial system, by some of the Republicans is shameful and destructive.
This post was edited on 8/13/22 at 2:43 pm
Posted by HVAU
Up over here
Member since Sep 2010
5165 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:47 pm to
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Why do you call it hero worship? Obama ‘s presidency resembled “hero worship” more than Trump’s. Just because we have a guy who fights back against the swamp and isn’t a typical corrupt politician, our admiration is dismissed as “hero worship”. The media worshipped Obama and set him on a pedestal. It was so blatant and as President he did nothing at all to make this country better but they still worship him like he was the greatest thing to ever happen to this country.


You’re right. Obama was worshiped by the left leaning media and many of his flaws were ignored.

Similarly you ignore Trump’s flaws and say things like “
quote:

we have a guy who fights back against the swamp and isn’t a typical corrupt politician
”.
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
3986 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:47 pm to
HVAU

WOW!
Gots all the talking points covered.

You have done well by your masters.

Please, please be sure to be up to date on ALL covid and monkey pox injections.

We would certainly hate for anything to happen to you.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15130 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:48 pm to
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The attacks on the law( including those who enforce it), as well as our judicial system, by some of the Republicans is shameful and destructive.


How stupid does one have to be to actually believe this. The Obama administration used govt agencies for political attacks and the Biden administration is doing the exact same thing. The ONLY group that is doing actual damage to America are Democrats. To believe different means you're either a liar or a sheep if not both.
Posted by HVAU
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Member since Sep 2010
5165 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:54 pm to
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Anyone that actually has this view is a complete moron and nothing more than a sheep. Everything you post is basically a lie.


Then we have nothing to discuss. You can continue to regard my comments as moronic deceit, and I’ll regard you similarly.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3767 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:55 pm to
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The US does not currently have open borders. It is illegal to enter the US except though proper channels.


This is the bullshite doublespeak you guys love to spout.

Just like when you state that the DOJ is independent of the Whitehouse.

bullshite and you know it.

But keep pushing this narrative…
Posted by HVAU
Up over here
Member since Sep 2010
5165 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:59 pm to
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HVAU WOW! Gots all the talking points covered. You have done well by your masters. Please, please be sure to be up to date on ALL covid and monkey pox injections. We would certainly hate for anything to happen to you.


I’m my perspective to the conversation. That’s all. You can disagree with me. You can ignore me. It isn’t really important to me what you do, but I’m still going to read the threads here to gauge the attitudes of MAGA, and I’ll continue to comment when I feel like it.
Posted by keltonAve
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2022
202 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 2:59 pm to
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To believe different means you're either a liar or a sheep if not both.



You know nothing, clearly.
Posted by HVAU
Up over here
Member since Sep 2010
5165 posts
Posted on 8/13/22 at 3:01 pm to
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This is the bull shite doublespeak you guys love to spout. Just like when you state that the DOJ is independent of the Whitehouse. Bull shite and you know it. But keep pushing this narrative…


I believe another poster has already cited deportation numbers to support that the current administration does not have an open border policy.

Also, I don’t believe I’ve commented on the independence of the DOJ. It should function independently, but it hasn’t for many administrations, including the Trump era.
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